Did refs help us beat oregon?

[Solana Beach Husker]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

 

[wkato]

Did you bother to chalk up everything Oregon got away with?

 

[donahues17]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

I disagree with your number 4. #85 had his right hand firm grasping the right par of the shoulder pad and pulling toward him. Ref was right there looking at it.

Didn't really notice the three blocks in the back on the Punt return.

 

[HeartMan]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

It was a PAC-12 crew...

 

[jlb321]

Yes. By making the correct calls

 

[hddude55]

As almost everyone knows, the biggest factor in our win was Scott Frost no longer on the Oregon coaching staff. Discuss

 

[kikdakan]

 

[DerHusker]

 

[jedihusker]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.

There were plenty of pivotal calls or no calls that went Oregon's way too. Yes, even with all the penalties that got called on Oregon, they got away with even more. One I can mention specifically that certainly was pivotal, Oregon's TD run on the 4th and 1 play, to make it 28-26 Nebraska, there were at least two and maybe three illegal blocks Oregon got away with. First off, and this is the "maybe" one, is AJ Natter (#45) at the right end of the d-line, get's mugged by about 3 different o-lineman, one has hold of his shoulder pads another is kind of grabbing him from behind. This one is a maybe because he is pretty much out of the play anyway, so none of these holds probably really made a difference, but they were still there.

The second one, and this one did make a difference, is Nate Gerry gets clipped. He has an angle on the ball carrier, he probably does get a first down but not much more, and an Oregon blocker dives at his legs from behind and gets him down and out of the play. Classic clip, you can see circled in the image below:

The third one, which also makes a big difference in the play, is Kieron Williams gets blocked in the back. He's running over to make the play, again at this point he would already have a first down, but not a touchdown, and Oregon receiver shoves him over from behind, completely taking him out of the play. You can see in the image below:

The blocks on Natter and Gerry I only noticed upon watching replay, but I saw the on Williams live, clear as day, right in front of the runner, and was pretty pissed there was no flag. I could spend a lot more time listing no-calls on Oregon or bad calls on Nebraska, but I think I've made my point.

1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

Just watched the punt return again, and I only saw one thing even remotely resembling a block in the back, and that was Jordan Westerkamp kinda bumping a guy who had already started to dive at Pierson-El and was going to miss. I saw two blocks in the side, which are not blocks in the back, and that was it.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

This play is really hard to definitively say anything on, unless you have some other angle they didn't show on TV. They never show a replay, and on the initial play, it happens so fast, it's hard to see much, but there is a defender right next to the receiver, so it's certainly possible he did something. I could also probably list at least 5, and probably a lot more, times that Oregon didn't get called for DPI and clearly should have, a few on some big 3rd down plays.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

Not sure what you're talking about here, didn't notice this. Also, you seem to be implying the refs tried to rescue us from the fumble by calling false start, but considering the flag would have been thrown before the play even started, and certainly before anyone recovered a fumble, they couldn't exactly know that calling the penalty would keep Oregon from recovering a fumble.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.

Not sure how this call was borderline, it was clear as day holding, I saw it as soon as it happened and was screaming for a flag, and was shocked when there actually was one.

I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

Certainly we had calls go our way, though I'm hard pressed to find many that were "bad" calls, and as I already stated above, I could give you a pretty good list of other no-calls on Oregon, and even a few calls on Nebraska, that were bad too.

 

[8675309husker]

Thanks for that jedi!

 

[HBK4life]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

 

[otismotis08]

It's not what you see when watching these calls, it's what you don't see. TV doesn't catch every angle.

The PAC-12 refs saw it and called it.

 

[TruHusker]

I just dont get complaining about calls. Humans doing the best they can and who know the rules are not going to be perfect. That doesnt keep people from seeing things their own way and interpret the rules. Do they make mistakes and miss calls? Certainly. Think about 22 players all doing something different spread across the field with eight people watching everything they do. I never wanted to hear coaches or players blame a loss on officials.

 

[mothmonsterman]

Remember when we used to make excuses for losses? Now we make excuses for wins.

 

[red rover 70]

All the calls looked good to me. The only one that was kind of iffy was the substitution infraction call on Oregon. And I guess that was a little bit of medicine for them because they make a living doing that to other people.

 

[walnut creek]

Shhhhh....Quiet we actually had some calls go our way.

 

[dckchusker]

What really has to chap Oregon's hide is that NU committed three penalties on the game winning drive and still scored. DPE fielded the punt at the 35, but an unnecessary roughness penalty pushed it back to the 20. So on paper, it was an 80 yard drive. But then the false start and the block in the back on A. Moore made us gain those yards a second time. Unless my counting is off, NU had to gain 100 yards on that last possession to complete an 80 yard drive. Impressive that they were able to overcome all their mistakes.

 

[GBRhuskers]

am happy we won

No you're not.

 

[BigRedballz]

Maybe the refs like Coach Riley. Maybe if you aren't a stark raving lunatic that spits all over them, pisses yourself and swings your cap at them, your team gets the benefit of the doubt when its close.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought Utter was blocked in the back on Oregon's fumble return.

 

[otismotis08]

I'd like to see more unnecessary roughness penalties called against us. It's proof positive that we are playing hard.

 

[paphusker]

 

[z28craz]

Sorry, but one thing that was painfully obvious throughout the entire game was for all the speed Oregon has, they lack size. Which makes sense. To have their level of team speed something has to give and of course it has to be size. I feel like we were obviously superior in size and strength. That said, in order to compensate for their lack of strength, Oregon was holding all over the place. There were a ton of obvious holding penalties that were never called. So, no, I don't think the refs helped us out.

I played college baseball, so I learned long ago that you control what you can control and you don't focus on the rest. While one call may go your way, and another call may not, the ultimate result of any ball game rests in the teams playing the game. No 9 inning ballgame is determined by the umpire. No 60 minute football game is determined by the ref. The fact is, no matter the outcome you can always look back and find mistakes and things that should or should not have been done. It's sports. No game is ever played to perfection. Oregon had far more opportunities to win than they did calls go against them. So no, we won, they lost, period.

 

[Huskers_Rule]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

"Documenting"? SO glad you are here to document our time on Earth, historians will forever be grateful that you took the time to "document" these "facts".

 

[RedSea]

Yes. In my experience, it is very hard to play a game without refs.

 

[HuskerDana]

Solana Beach Husker.....I am pretty sure your 'friends at work' are Duck fans....you might want to check and make sure you are not a Duck fan, too.....

 

[bootleg11]

should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.

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This isn't a serious post is it?

 

[HuskerBlueDevil]

As for the number 4 in the OP, that is virtually the same call they made on Moore. Neither was egregious, IMO, but both were violations and the calls were consistent.

Just watched the punt return and I see no blocks in the back. Not even close.

 

[nebcountry]

The better team won, and that's usually the case. Oregon is a highly penalized team. Penalties, turnovers, poor decision making, these are all things that can make an otherwise good team more average. These end being "ya, but" excuses, the scoreboard tells who the better team is.

 

[jay-cheese]

Stanley got roughed bad on that jump ball throw from Tommy...no call. Their player clearly held our guy before letting him go on their last drive for the holding call. Their RB got to the edge because of it...clear penalty. The sub infraction call is hilarious...it was clear that Oregon players were confused and it cost them (you don't get extra time b/c your players can't figure out who is subbing for who...)

I said it during the game and I'll say it now..Oregon played pretty dirty in their secondary and on their oline. I guess that is why their are ref's. They might not call it this tight every game, but frankly I thought the officials did a good job.

Both teams are better than they are giving themselves credit for. I feel strongly that the end of the season results will vindicate this statement...I see Oregon playing angry the rest of the season and causing other teams a lot of problems. This win is going to look even better in a few months. Mark it.

GBR

 

[bigboxes]

Once again, we are not world beaters. No one has claimed that. What we are is a highly competitive team that should be ranked in the Top 25. Oregon is not a Top 10 team this year. They are a talented team though. In the end, we beat them. I think it's perfectly fine to feel good about our program and its progress. You'll notice the first two games did not come down to the end. In our game with a Top 25 team, Oregon, we finished out.

 

[TheLiberalHunter]

Let's see....Pac 12 Refs...Oregon has "world class speed"...they couldn't cover our guys and we could cover theirs.

Either our coaching is superior, technique wise, or they ain't world class speedsters.

I doubt P12 Refs were anything but neutral.

 

[huskerhomie]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

With regards to number 2. Unless you were at the game I am not sure how you could tell that there was no PI on the Oregon DB as the camera angle did not show what happened before the throw.
I can tell you that if you watch the play, the Oregon DB has his hands all over our WR very early on in the play. You can also tell by our WR's reaction that he thought it was a good PI call, and was asking for a PI call a little bit. Makes me think that the Oregon DB (even though we didnt see it) is a good chance it was PI>

 

[huskerhomie]

All the calls looked good to me. The only one that was kind of iffy was the substitution infraction call on Oregon. And I guess that was a little bit of medicine for them because they make a living doing that to other people.

Borrowed this from our other board. Explains the substitution pretty nicely and shows that Oregon didnt really have a leg to stand on to complain about it:

But if you watch it, UO had plenty of time to sub. Yes, Nebraska subbed, but then they huddled up to call the play. Meanwhile, Oregon defenders were standing there looking at the sideline. Once Nebraska breaks the huddle, THEN Oregon decides to substitute. And then he complains that the refs didn't hold the game up to let his subs run onto the field. Well, it's their own fault. They had plenty of time to sub. It's not like NU was in a hurry up. They just took too long before deciding to sub. It's not the refs job to make up for their slow decision making.

 

[6thdegree]

Oregon helped us beat Oregon.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

Your post can no longer be taken seriously if you actually believe that was not a hold on Oregon's final drive. That was clear as day.

 

[anon_f0p8yi74csor0]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

I disagree with everything besides #1. There were blocks in back but they happened right in front of the official that already threw his flag for kick catch inference which stopped him from calling the blocks in back,

 

[Cornicator]

Borrowed this from our other board. Explains the substitution pretty nicely and shows that Oregon didnt really have a leg to stand on to complain about it:

But if you watch it, UO had plenty of time to sub. Yes, Nebraska subbed, but then they huddled up to call the play. Meanwhile, Oregon defenders were standing there looking at the sideline. Once Nebraska breaks the huddle, THEN Oregon decides to substitute. And then he complains that the refs didn't hold the game up to let his subs run onto the field. Well, it's their own fault. They had plenty of time to sub. It's not like NU was in a hurry up. They just took too long before deciding to sub. It's not the refs job to make up for their slow decision making.

They not only waited too long, they also waited too long to Sub 8 FREAKING players.

 

[anon_f0p8yi74csor0]

Posed this question at work, most coworkers said bad calls went both ways, which I agree, but....
The calls that went our way were extremely pivotal.


1. On Pierson-El punt return there were THREE block in the back violations that lead to the big run, this should have been an off-setting penalty and a rekick. We score 7.

2. Pass interference in the endzone on 3rd down, and tommy flailing a throw into the chest of a defender, PI was called even though there was no violation. We score 7.

3. We were jumping all day(false start) and they missed it, but one of the few times they caught it, we snapped it into our wr, and Oregon recovered.

4. With Oregon driving for the win on the last drive they had were called for holding that took them from first down at the 25 to 1st and 20 at midfield. We won the game a few plays later. The call was borderline at best but should have been a no call as blocker released as Qb ran past them and defender turned. They were punished for defender losing contain.


I am happy we won, just documenting that NU gets it fair share of calls, and wins as a result of poor, but unbiased officiating.

I also think you are a Bo homer from your past post and I know you were probably not thrilled we won, I do think you have a point about 1, probably called if he hadn't already thrown his flag

 

[bigboxes]

Can we all agree that we won the game?