I wonder if more multiple means they have to somewhat fit their defensive plans to the players they have.
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We are fortunate to not have to defend against elite speed and spread schemes
Makes all the sense in the world
It will be interesting if they actually sub in more DL or simply adjust the alignment and keep the personnel consistent.
And most of the QB's in the conference are also world class bad athletes and no threat to move.
limited practice time always makes for an interesting balance between NFL philosophies where they are able to drastically change schemes on a weekly basis based on the opponent versus the college game and limited prep sticking with a scheme and focus on executing at a high level with a few minor tweaks from week to week
I would think Hutmacher would be a good fit at NT. I assume Robinson was recruited as a 3-4 DE. Would say the same is true about Buckley. If Wynn returns, how do they use him? Where does Nelson fit it. Does he end up being a flex guy?
Looking at TCU's defensive depth chart, you see the measurables for championship level 3-3-5 personnel. NU does not have sufficient size and athleticism at LB.
Looking at TCU's defensive depth chart, you see the measurables for championship level 3-3-5 personnel. NU does not have sufficient size and athleticism at LB.
Every DC in the nation will use the word "multiple" when describing their defense
Personnel will stay consistent
Don't you have a 4th grade team to coach?
I thought no one was concerned about championship level football in year one. It was just getting to "respectability".
TCU is also almost exclusively 3rd, 4th and 5th year players on the 2 deep defense. The only exceptions are the starting NT, a freshman, and 2 sophomores, backup LB (converted WR) and a back up FS.
So probably a bit premature to compare a veteran TCU squad to a team in year 0 of a transition.
Scheme/personnel certainly play a significant role, but the basics of 1. knowing assignment and 2. fundamentals like tackling and angles will go a long way in dictating success.
#1 played out before our eyes when Busch took over
#2 also played out when we saw what happens when a team doesn’t practice tackling “for 4 years.”
#1 played out before our eyes when Busch took over
#2 also played out when we saw what happens when a team doesn’t practice tackling “for 4 years.”
Honestly us not tackling for 4 years should not have been a surprise as they played flag football in the spring game for what 2-3 years? Should have known something was wrong.
"Our defense is singular, basic, finesse, and pillow soft."
Yeahhhh but why hire the guy who learned from the master/originator of the 3-3-5 and tell him to run something different? I think you may get some different body types in the 3-3-5 but still in the 3-3-5. For example perhaps the edge guys are bigger to combat the bigger TEs or your extra DB might be more LB than DB.
And of course there will be some different alignments a lot of people are going to say this defense is more 5-2 than 3-3-5 and say that he adjusted to the conference. When really it is 3-3-5 with guys in a different spot you just are not likely going to get the classic 3-3-5 look until they are in obvious passing downs.
so 4-2-5 against the typical grind it out big 10 offense like mich
and 3-3-5 against the more speedster ohio state type offense..
and switching between the 2 to cause havok
and 3-3-5 against the more speedster ohio state type offense..
and switching between the 2 to cause havok
I'm sure the basic foundation of a 33 will still be at the core of what is taught and built upon. From there it's all about adjustment to your next opponent.
I run a 4-3 base defense. But we have morphed into a 4-2, and utilize the 3-4 when needed. Everything we do is called the same as it was in our 43 base but we had to adjust for all of the crazy spreads and formations that we see now a days.
I'm gonna trust these coaches until they give me reasons not to. We also don't know which players may yet still leave. We also don't know if they feel warm and fuzzy about maybe some kids they think they can sign that will allow more flexibility in designing defenses based on opponents.
If you are outmanned at the LOS a 3-3-5 may actually be a bit better than 4-2
make the off lineman find your guys in space rather in engaging right at the LOS and get manhandled
the 5 in the 3-3-5 is what makes or breaks that defense - you better have a guy that can fill in the run game as well as cover
I think once the early signing period ends, they may have a better idea of where we need to be. Then in the next period, they can more closely go after a missing piece or two to try to complete the defensive personnel.
Very true and who do we have for the 3? What if Neb puts 3 big Dts and 3 big LBs on a running down that's gonna eat a lot of space. The way u play ur d with personnel matters a huge amount. The rover will be a big part need a lavante or JoJo type of guy there.
I posted a quick and simple post about what defensive scheme will be run at Nebraska, maybe a bit too quick. My feeling is you always play to your strengths you never try to put a square peg in a round hole. Nebraska will be multiple in it's looks, they won't exclusively become married to one or even two defensive formations, thankfully.
If Rhule can get the right players who are big, quick and strong he will be able to run just about any defensive and offensive formation he wants, but that's the tricky part, getting those type players. I just don't ever want to see a coach at Nebraska try and force a another offensive or defensive scheme on kids that they are not cut out to run.
Sean Callahan and Steve Sipple just said today that they don't know anybody closely involved in the program at this point. But you apparently not only know the new coaches on the staff, but they've apparently welcomed you to their inner circle.
And since most of us were born last night and in a barn, we're going to believe that.
All I’ve heard about the 3-3-5 from everybody I listened to was that it was extremely flexible and you sometimes have 5-6 guys on the LOS which makes it difficult for an O line to know how to block it. Utah did a lot of that against USC last week
Look, I've been around Coach Rhule for a long time from my time covering the NE region. I've got a pretty good idea of what's coming down the pipe. The exception to that is how the new DC will mold his defense to the Big 10 West. Even he's building the plane while trying to fly it
Dude. He's a Recruiting Anal-National. Show some respect.
dinglefritz I like reading your posts but I guess I didn't write mine very clearly. I'm not saying Nebraska will not run a 3-3-5 I just feel it won't be run exclusively like some seem to feel it will be. As I've said during this discussion earlier, My feeling is you always play to your strengths you never try to put a square peg in a round hole. Nebraska will be multiple in it's looks, they won't exclusively become married to one or even two defensive formations, thankfully. Who really knows what the base defense will be when the team rolls out for spring practices or coach Rhule tells us what he plans to roll with. jmo which will not be shared by others I'm sure and that's O.K..
One could assume by the shear number of offers to edge players and the relative lack of offers to traditional interior defensive linemen that there will be at a minimum a fundamental change in the make up of the defensive line.
I just talked to Coach Rhule, his wife, his kids, and his 3 dogs and they have no idea who you are. Maybe you did not make a big impression.
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The fact that you are still referencing the Big Ten west shows that you are out of touch. Rhule isn't going to adjust his offense or defense to the Big Ten west because there will be no divisions after next year. The schedule for 2024 and beyond is not even out yet, but without a division format, there is absolutely no way of knowing who will be on the schedule. So attempting to "mold" anything to the Big Ten west would be a collossal waste of time.
But maybe they feel they have the right amount of traditional type players already on the DL. One can also assume that recruiting interior DL is not over currently or that the ones out there are not any better than what's in house, who really knows. jmo
Hutmacher obviously is an NT. Ty was recruited as a 3-4 DE, can trim up a bit and take one of those spots. Is Wynn a DE or would he also play in the middle?
In a 3 man front, I expect to see Wynn or Robinson on one side and an edge type on the opposite side.
If you look at the 3-3-5 defense it is capable of running a 3 man or 4 man front depending on where the 5th DB is located and their size. This also has NT over the center or gaurd and can have the tackles and LB's coming from multiple direstions. There is some great info on this defense and is extremely versatile and makes the OC's and QB's guess where the pressure is coming from. I like it.
I love that the DL lines up head up with an OL and not in the gap
depends on what you're trying to accomplish on D. Gap alignments are typically shades and require a DT thus getting a two for 1 freeing up LB's to make plays. Stack alignments can be feast or famine depending on what your doing with them.
