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Defense is NOT the problem.

The defense is better; they struggle to get stops at critical time, but are clearly better this year than the prior two. And without a doubt they get put into some awful spots by the offense and special teams.

But they can be better, especially getting turnovers.
 
The defense is better; they struggle to get stops at critical time, but are clearly better this year than the prior two. And without a doubt they get put into some awful spots by the offense and special teams.

But they can be better, especially getting turnovers.
We're ranked in the 100's in turnovers and 76th in scoring defense. Our defense is not better, they're worse than last year.
 
Also, kickoff and punt coverage is an extension of the defense. If we have a bunch of guys on special teams not able to get off blocks, that's a direct reflection on our defense. These guys will be expected to be the starters on defense in the coming years, and if they do this poorly on special teams, it's an indicator they're not going to be very good defensive players either.
 
Too many turnovers this year.. obviously.. Need a better QB that can throw to our WIDE OPEN receivers

Tell us all how many seniors are on this D? Then tell us where they are statistically in the nation? Tell us how they are in 3rd down efficiency?

This was a very bad team we played tonight with a new coach and staff.
 
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It does suck. Bragging about giving up 250 yards to Rutgers while they're missing their starting qb is a pretty strong clue.
Vedral was starting primarily because of his legs early in the year and ability to run an uptempo offense which was very similar to what Frost runs. Multiple reporters from Rutgers have said that Vedral lost the job at one point this year to the guy they started tonight. Point is, there wasn't really a drop off from Vedral to the guys who played tonight. None of them are great.
 
It does suck. Bragging about giving up 250 yards to Rutgers while they're missing their starting qb is a pretty strong clue.
Their starting QB led Rutgers to only one of their three wins, and that was against an awful team that turned the ball over seven teams.

Of course, he knew the offense better than anyone in the QB room - 'cept maybe the coaches, and even that's doubtful. Prolly knew the offense even better than the coaches. Like a coach on the field, that guy.
 
Vedral was starting primarily because of his legs early in the year and ability to run an uptempo offense which was very similar to what Frost runs. Multiple reporters from Rutgers have said that Vedral lost the job at one point this year to the guy they started tonight. Point is, there wasn't really a drop off from Vedral to the guys who played tonight. None of them are great.
But he's assembled the largest fan club ever for a QB with a 1-7 career record.
 
But he's assembled the largest fan club ever for a QB with a 1-7 career record.
I'm a member of his fan club. I just see his limitations. Good kid. Very athletic and reasonably good arm. He's a gamer. As we saw last night he didn't have all that much around him on offense. I'm glad he got to start some games for Rutgers but wish he was still a Husker. It just seems wrong when a Husker legacy plays elsewhere. IMO he's a better QB than his uncle Matt Turman and we all know what a legend Matt is.
 
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We played 8 games this year. We held 6 of them under 28 points. If you can't win those games that isn't on the D. Especially when in those 6 games of the 3 we lost, in 2 of them the Defense gave the ball to the Offense at the end of the game with more than enough time to put together a game winning drive and the offense just tanked both times.

The defense Frost wants is designed to do exactly what it did in those six games. Hold teams under 30 and try to get a turnover or two. Because the head coach is supposed to be an offensive genius and wants to win by scoring 30+ points a game so the offensive side side of the ball receives the bulk of the resources.
 
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We played 8 games this year. We held 6 of them under 28 points. If you can't win those games that isn't on the D. Especially when in those 6 games of the 3 we lost, in 2 of them the Defense gave the ball to the Offense at the end of the game with more than enough time to put together a game winning drive and the offense just tanked both times.

The defense Frost wants is designed to do exactly what it did in those six games. Hold teams under 30 and try to get a turnover or two. Because the head coach is supposed to be an offensive genius and wants to win by scoring 30+ points a game so the offensive side side of the ball receives the bulk of the resources.
Giving up 28 points in the Big 10 is a crappy performance. When is the last time we held a team under 20?
 
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1, it clinched the game basically.
Exactly my point. I believe we're ranked in the 100's for forcing turnovers. I thought forcing turnovers was supposed to be the whole point of Chinander's defense? How many more games do we win if we're ranked in the top 50?
 
The offense generated over 600 yards last night. The defense only gave up 250. Wooohooo Blowout. OOPs. Still to many mistakes on BOTH SIDES of the ball. OFFENSE?? DEFENSE?? It is not an either or. This is a TEAM and coaching problem on both sides of the ball!
 
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Giving up 28 points in the Big 10 is a crappy performance. When is the last time we held a team under 20?

First you need to wake up and realize what decade we are in and understand that giving up 28 points per game is above average in this era of football.

They also only gave up 21 of those points to Rutgers.

As far as your 2nd point. We did that 3 times last season. Including against Northwestern. The D held Northwestern to 10 points and STILL needed to get an interception with a minute left in the game so we could kick a field goal as our putrid offense seemingly forgot what an endzone looked like.

This year the Defense gave up an average of 217 yards per game. 3 Td's per game and had 1 takeaway per game. You should absolutely be winning games with that output.

Except the offense averaged 190 yards per game, only scored 2.5 TD's per game and gave away 2.3 turnovers per game. Those are absolutely atrocious numbers.
 
First you need to wake up and realize what decade we are in and understand that giving up 28 points per game is above average in this era of football.

They also only gave up 21 of those points to Rutgers.

As far as your 2nd point. We did that 3 times last season. Including against Northwestern. The D held Northwestern to 10 points and STILL needed to get an interception with a minute left in the game so we could kick a field goal as our putrid offense seemingly forgot what an endzone looked like.

This year the Defense gave up an average of 217 yards per game. 3 Td's per game and had 1 takeaway per game. You should absolutely be winning games with that output.

Except the offense averaged 190 yards per game, only scored 2.5 TD's per game and gave away 2.3 turnovers per game. Those are absolutely atrocious numbers.
If we held teams to under 10 points twice last year and had better stats across the board, how are we improved on defense this year? Everybody acts like we're massively improved on defense, but the stats say the exact opposite and we're worse in just about every relevant statistical category.
 
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