Dec. 12th..possible big date for Huskers

Discussion in 'Husker Board' started by mrruffin10, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. husker2612

    husker2612 Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,116
    Likes Received:
    3,928
    At this point I doubt the hearing even matters as far as if he will or won't be back. Sounds like he is self centered D bag. Until he fixes that, he won't be back.
     
  2. NikkiSixx

    NikkiSixx All-American
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2013
    Messages:
    4,874
    Likes Received:
    2,926
    If I were Maurice, I would look at transferring somewhere else. We're getting a couple more guys in, and hopefully Mills sticks around. There would be no guarantee of playing time. Maurice was exceptionally bad at running inside when compared to Mills who had to run behind the same offensive line. I sort of wonder if he wouldn't make a better receiver. Then there is all this switch to defense stuff I heard about, so who knows what is going on in that kids brain. He might have someone outside the program giving him bad advice too. I'm with the others that are leaning more toward 'not my problem' anymore.
     
  3. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    405
    This is what I was trying to explain to Taco..Frost is not going to say "im stressed as ****, I got two kids who are about to be suspended from school for sexual misconduct. And this guy has child porn case that is dragging on forever. Not to mention, he keeps doing stupid stuff like being late. Thought I might cut bait until his case is resolved and let this OTL report drop."

    Mo was not suspended any games last year correct? You cant tell the threat of a prison sentence wouldn't make him more likely to mess up. Pressure busts pipes.
    my sentiments exactly, we cant just write off NFL level talent like we are loaded. Mo has made dumb mistakes but nothing to send a kid home for good. If Mo makes the effort( alot easier once you know you are not going to prison), then Frost will welcome him back with open arms( alot easier when you know he is not going to prison).
     
    yunginsNU2 likes this.
  4. Tuco Salamanca

    Tuco Salamanca Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,672
    Likes Received:
    10,628
    Location:
    Albuquerque
    that isn’t what you we’re trying to tell me. Read the transcript
     
  5. Top_Gun_

    Top_Gun_ Junior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2019
    Messages:
    1,995
    Likes Received:
    2,239
    Mo was suspended for the first half of game 1.

    It would be in the best interest of husker football that he doesn't return.

    good luck, good riddance.
     
  6. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    405
    Glad you arent the coach of the huskers..Scottie Frost said the door is still open!lol
     
    BleedRed78 and Top_Gun_ like this.
  7. leodisflowers

    leodisflowers All-American
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,406
    Likes Received:
    1,210
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    He will have a long way to go to get back. Not only his legal issues, but he essentially quit on his team. If everything is true and we do have cancers on the team, we don't want him back. He had multiple chances and just needs to move on. We are going to have a pretty good running back room next year and although yes a good talent, we don't need a divided position group. I wish the kid well, but time to move on.
     
    yunginsNU2, Thrasher31 and Top_Gun_ like this.
  8. c3o

    c3o Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    1,943
    How do we know he’s a cancer of the team? Has any teammate publicly spoken against him? I don’t think we have enough evidence, yet. Maybe he was. Maybe he’s just going through some tough shit for a teenager. I’ll let this play out. I’m selfish and I want all the weapons I can get my hands on
     
  9. Buckman01213

    Buckman01213 Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2015
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    236
    FWIW, from what I've heard, he had issues with being fairly withdrawn and not engaging with teammates, doing things like going to the training table and swiping his card to make it appear that he was there, and then he'd just leave. He obviously has a lot going on in his life currently, and hasn't had the clearest path to even get to this point in his life, but as Frost said, you try to do as much as you can for a person, but at some point you just have to throw your hands up and say we tried and they have to figure it out on their own.
     
    PeliniTheCrutch and Thrasher31 like this.
  10. huskerfan66

    huskerfan66 Assistant Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    10,294
    Likes Received:
    4,010
    Thanks for the info
     
    mrruffin10 likes this.
  11. Tuco Salamanca

    Tuco Salamanca Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,672
    Likes Received:
    10,628
    Location:
    Albuquerque
    In order to transfer, he needs to be on track to graduate. If he had stopped going to class, there is a chance that he wouldn’t have enough credits to transfer or had a good enough gPA to transfer.
     
    huskerfan66 likes this.
  12. huskerfan66

    huskerfan66 Assistant Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    10,294
    Likes Received:
    4,010
    Ah, true. I do remember now that you say that. I read that somewhere when I was reading about transfer rules. Thanks
     
    mrruffin10 likes this.
  13. SomedayHusker

    SomedayHusker Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2019
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    70
    I’ve heard second hand through a couple different Nebraska-born current Husker players that he is not all that well-liked by the team in general. Part of if is because he’s just a “weird dude”. I heard before last season started that he didn’t show up to optional workouts/lifting, which most of the A-team did, and you can tell that’s true just by looking at him. He’s Kind of an outcast.

    I hope for the best for him and the team, for him to get himself straightened out and play for Nebraska. We could use the talent, but my gut tells me his college career may be a lot like his high school career.
     
  14. inWV

    inWV Recruiting Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2007
    Messages:
    6,804
    Likes Received:
    4,139
    i believe Mo was benched for rules violation in two games. He been slowly fading from the program since the charges were announced. It got to the point where Frost said no mas.
     
    mrruffin10 likes this.
  15. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    405
    So reading the tea leaves...he is still attending class which is a positive sign for him. He would need his grades whether he planned on returning or transferring. Frost has yet to make a final decision on Mo which leads me to believe he has left the door open. If Mo stays on track and does what he needs to do is still to be seen. The faster the case is resolved the better for everyone involved. Will the 12th be the day? 85 man teams are made up of all kinds of dudes, generally anyone who can help a team win is accepted. A few weirdos doesn’t hurt a team.lol..he was living with/smoking with several players when he was cited for weed correct? So even that may be overblown.
     
    55 mrruffin10, Dec 10, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019
  16. Huskerchil

    Huskerchil Newbie
    Silver Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2019
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    22
    I hope your right
     
  17. leodisflowers

    leodisflowers All-American
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,406
    Likes Received:
    1,210
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    He is still attending class?
     
  18. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    405
    That is what I heard and someone else reported the same. It is a good sign for Mo and his best interest at the very least.
     
  19. leodisflowers

    leodisflowers All-American
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,406
    Likes Received:
    1,210
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Interesting.
     
  20. chicolby

    chicolby First Team All-Big Ten
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Messages:
    3,939
    Likes Received:
    3,268
    There are two schools of thought when it comes to a guy like Washington.

    1) The guy is a bad apple, doesn't care for the team, etc.... throw him out.

    2) The guy had a rough upbringing and isn't fitting in... let's act like he is family and figure a way to help him out.

    There isn't a right or wrong. For as many examples as each camp can bring up, there are counters. Sometimes throwing out a guy like that is what a team needs. Sometimes working with him and watching him mature can result in something powerful down the road. There is no easy answer.

    What I do know is that when he's on the field, there's some electricity he brings that very few guys have. I look at UCF when Frost had them undefeated and they had a bunch of guys that have that electricity. Whether it's him or someone else, that's the kind of player Frost's offense needs to work.
     
    mrruffin10 likes this.
  21. huskerwa

    huskerwa Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2006
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    66
    Any updates on his case?
     
  22. c3o

    c3o Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    1,943
    just read it was delayed again till Jan
     
  23. huskerfan66

    huskerfan66 Assistant Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    10,294
    Likes Received:
    4,010
    Good gravy Marie. How many times can this can get kicked down the road??
     
  24. c3o

    c3o Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    1,943
    Enough to know we don’t know shit. Let this play out and I’ll support the kid either way. I am hoping he can come back and be a weapon for this team and in the process become a man
     
    huskrz1, WHCSC and huskerfan66 like this.
  25. Sodakred

    Sodakred Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2018
    Messages:
    498
    Likes Received:
    437
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    Looks like the 13th could be the big day. Not surprising as any Friday the 13th trumps the best Thursday the 12th. I will anxiously await news tomorrow.
     
  26. phoenix4nu

    phoenix4nu Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,309
    Likes Received:
    2,725
    66 phoenix4nu, Dec 12, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2019
  27. PeliniTheCrutch

    PeliniTheCrutch Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2016
    Messages:
    3,419
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Gone forever...Aaron Hernandez!
     
  28. Tuco Salamanca

    Tuco Salamanca Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,672
    Likes Received:
    10,628
    Location:
    Albuquerque
    What I am hearing is that this delay is because Washington's attorney could not get in contact with Washington at the time of the hearing. As you remember, he didn't have to be present in California for many of the other hearings and could just appear via skype or teleconference.

    Regardless, they continued the hearing 30 days and are requiring him to appear in person.

    If true, I would just as soon want him to stay in California than come back to Lincoln.
     
  29. husker2612

    husker2612 Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,116
    Likes Received:
    3,928
    Again not the end all be all, but he still has his twitter profile decked out in Husker stuff. Seems like when these kids are done with a team they instantly remove anything to do with their old program. So imo I would say he wants to still be on the team or is at the very least thinking things over.
     
  30. nu2u

    nu2u Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2006
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    588
    He essentially quit the team mid-season. Its not exactly parallel to football but anyone who has served in the military knows how other members of the unit feel about of a fellow soldier who walks away from the unit during active duty. I can't see how his return would be a positive influence on the team.... it would likely have an opposite effect.
     
  31. icnu525

    icnu525 Newbie
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    26
    he must have done something pretty daggone serious to get booted after NOT getting booted for his earlier crimes, or crimes he was accused of .
     
  32. Solana Beach Husker

    Solana Beach Husker Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    7,842
    Likes Received:
    1,907
    This is a different climate. Most kids have grown up in a restorative atmosphere where people are allowed 2nd chances if they apologize to their teammates, girls volleyball team, coaches and whomever else they may have hurt. If he passes some classes, stands in front of the team and has a heart to heart, and the coaches do a good job explaining that he has some issues but is going to be a part of our team whether he plays or not, then I could see him accepted back. It all comes down to communication. These kids aren't in combat...and if they were Mo could be considered one of the more gifted warriors...another player would be an idiot to not want him on the field if he is at his best. Everybody looks better when he is engaged. IMO we have too many mediocre talented players who want "law and order" and will bitch if things aren't fair...but they are perfectly ok putting a poor product on the field. We aren't a Division II christian university. The kids are here to win, to entertain...nothing more.
     
  33. huskrz1

    huskrz1 Walk On
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    466
    Likes Received:
    154
    I say roll the dice and if he is attending classes (didn’t know that fact and if true that means a lot) and he keeps his nose clean and the case is resolved in time for the spring we take him. Need him out of the backfield on the swing passes and screens when he has the ability to scamper for a TD. He is a threat on every play and would take some pressure of Mills and the other RB’s. Like to see him add get little more weight via muscle in the legs to be more durable and learn not to take those unnecessary hits on the sideline where they wipe his ass out.
     
  34. Tuco Salamanca

    Tuco Salamanca Offensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2016
    Messages:
    8,672
    Likes Received:
    10,628
    Location:
    Albuquerque
    Generally speaking, I agree. In the situation I think it’s a little different because it’s not one incident. Washington has exhibited a pattern of behavior that is selfish and he doesn’t appear to care what or how something affects anyone else. There may be a few kids that will forgive him on this team, I am not sure the coaches are going to stand up for him as they did in your example
     
    HominidHusker likes this.
  35. mrruffin10

    mrruffin10 Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    405
    All valid points
    all valid points..if he passed his classes “on his own” while being away from the team, then that alone shows some growth. Sure he may make bonehead errors like being late or not following nutrition but those kinds of errors won’t make frost send him home. The one “unforgivable” error he has made was leave the team, but we don’t know the circumstances around it. We don’t know if frost sent him home or if he left at this point. Frost keeps a tight ship and could the team the same media answers. Long story short, in the spring if frost brings Mo in front of the team and says “ I put Mo on indefinite suspension for x,y,z and asked him to focus on himself and come back when his situation is over so he can focus on football. I think it was just too much on his plate. He passed all his classes and has gotten his case thrown out and is ready to join you guys. They team would hug it out and be happy to have baller back on their team. Football teams are full screw ups, strong personalities, weird dudes but the bottom line is can you help us win.
     
    huskrz1 likes this.
  36. huskrz1

    huskrz1 Walk On
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    466
    Likes Received:
    154
    Yep - Agree with ur points and analysis. As I was writing I was thinking how many significant factors or reasons I don’t/didn’t know about....nor do most of us right. When I heard that he left the team I was pissed and said f’ off. But I didn’t know he was taking classes this entire time and not in Caly making more movies with his friends for all I knew. Like u said frost and company are the only ones that know all the facts and frosty will do the right thing for him and the team. I have no doubt we could use a player with his skills but if frost thinks he will be a distraction then I say let MW go. MW did so much to get to Lincoln so maybe #28 needs more mentorship and if frost and his staff and team members think he can help skinny legs become a better man then this could end up well for the team. I would love to see him come back and have a positive impact but understand if his teammates despise him making his return an overall negative.
     
    76 huskrz1, Dec 14, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2019
    mrruffin10 likes this.

Share This Page