And what was Rhule's? I honestly have no idea. Maybe it was really good while at Temple and Baylor?
Dan Mullen to UNLV
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To keep up with titans like East Carolina and Tulsa? Not sure, don’t care either. Didn’t Scott Frost go undefeated in that conference too?
Glad you agree it’s factually correct!
Since I apparently have to spell it out to you.
No, that his argument of Mullen's success with the comment of "MSU was ranked #1" is stupid just like the "Riley got Nebraska ranked to #6" comment.
Of course you don't. It would put a huge hole in your argument when trying to compare the 2 in that 1 was much more successful than the other.
Mullen got hired for better jobs, but that means he’s actually worse than Rhule.
impressive logic, retard
You wouldn’t address it.
Glad you’ve admitted he did something Rhule never has or will do!
I guess if you want to use meaningless statistics when 1 guy has never stayed at a place longer than 4 years (because he kept moving up), then yup, you win. Congrats.
So UNLV is a better job than the Carolina Panthers, Baylor and Nebraska?
So I understand the logic, Temple to Baylor to NFL to Nebraska is a lesser path than Miss St to Florida to fired to TV analyst Lake Oconee Academy to UNLV?
To use the logic of many on this board when it came to the Butler hire, it appears he sucked as a head coach because no one wanted him to be their coach for 3 seasons. I guess except Lake Oconee Academy Titans
Y'all love to argue, but what's the point? We have Rhule, not Mullen, and the jury is still out as far as the success he will have here. Time will tell.
overall record
Baylor: 19-20
Panthers: 11-27
Nebraska: 11-13
stunning resume.
Maybe he did? It's unfortunate if he sucks but has a much better resume than our guy. hoping that changes soon!
You wrote Mullen got better jobs. He has had exactly 2, now 3 HC jobs. I am not sure anyone is going to agree that Florida to TV Analyst to high school consultant to UNLV is getting better jobs.
Mississippi State is a better job than Temple.
Florida is a better job than Baylor.
Mississippi State and Florida both got worse after Mullen left. Baylor won the conference after Rhule left, nobody cared what Temple did.
So is it the 11-27 at the Panthers or the 13-15 here that you’re expecting me to be impressed with?
You are confusing the issue. I am not asking anyone to be impressed with Rhule. You wrote that you thought Mullen should have been hired in 2022 at Nebraska. I just stated there is nothing in his record that shows he would do any better at Nebraska than Rhule is doing. Then you moved the goal posts to start an attack on Rhule's record in a vacuum. You want other people to take circumstances into account when you pose a discussion, but when they come back, you just want the numbers.
I liked Mullen's approach to offense. It is unique and he will run the ball if it's working.
I do believe his college resume is better than Rhule's. He's certainly won in tougher circumstances, AND, he's also been fired. What he did at MSU, in the SEC West is very commendable.
I think he would have found the B1G west much more comfortable than the SEC. His offense can be deadly if the QB is capable. I don't know if we had that QB or if they would have came.
I'm still of the opinion that if our coaching was running on all cylinders, we would have won 9-10 games this year relatively easily, looking back at our competition.
Yes, I'm biased somewhat. I am not a fan of Rhule so far and I'm hoping he can get assistants here to make his job look better.
I just would have rather had Mullen, and probably stated that sometime in the past.
I do believe his college resume is better than Rhule's. He's certainly won in tougher circumstances, AND, he's also been fired. What he did at MSU, in the SEC West is very commendable.
I think he would have found the B1G west much more comfortable than the SEC. His offense can be deadly if the QB is capable. I don't know if we had that QB or if they would have came.
I'm still of the opinion that if our coaching was running on all cylinders, we would have won 9-10 games this year relatively easily, looking back at our competition.
Yes, I'm biased somewhat. I am not a fan of Rhule so far and I'm hoping he can get assistants here to make his job look better.
I just would have rather had Mullen, and probably stated that sometime in the past.
This is exactly why you can't have a conversation with him. He just can't keep up.
So what's the threshold here... Only winning a SEC titlem Does winning any conference title count? If not, why not and which conferences count?
Is winning said conference title the only deciding factor on whether you're a better coach or not?
“Nothing in his record”
Maybe if you ignore his 10%+ better winning %, and over twice the bowl appearances, and competing in the toughest conference in CFB.
But surely you wouldn’t be that stupid.
Refusing to answer your stupid questions =/= can’t keep up.
You argue like a woman and refuse to answer questions head on, then get your cųnt all sandy when fed your own medicine.
So far we have:
> finishing in the top 15 doesn’t matter, cuz one time Mike Riley was in the top 10 at midseason
> overall winning record doesn’t matter, because …?
> AAC is tougher than the SEC
what other brainlet takes do you have?
Literally none of my takes. But keep going. You're coming off real smart.
Fickell won the AAC (while going undefeated and making the 4-team playoff)
You don’t seem to think that moves the needle much in his case
So why should it in Rhule’s?
You are comparing the 2 coaches head to head, under different circumstances and different context.
What in mullen’s record shows he is the guy to get Nebraska to 9 wins each year? The up and down of his Miss St record,? The four years of decline as the Florida coach that led to him being fired? The consulting job at the Georgia private high school? 3 seasons as an espnnews analyst?
Wow. That’s a panty dropper, show stopper!!!
Set the bar low so next year you can do better. LOL
Oh god what intelligence!!!🤣😆🤭
But the irony is it’s wrong. But let me guess, let’s ignore the NFL? That old winning % went down every year in the NFL
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Of course, year 1 at each temple and Baylor were worse than what he inherited
But I guess that doesn’t count
Yes, that’s how comparisons and speculation work. And considering Mullen was in the toughest conference in CFB, it’s pretty silly that you’re wanting to discount their experience in Rhule’s favor.
He would only need 7 wins a year to be better than Rhule, which is the argument.
I’ve exhausted the reasons why, feel free to revisit the numerous statistics provided.
Maybe a good homework assignment for you and @HuskerO would be to compare their records against ranked opponents.
Your comment was that you wanted Mullen when Nebraska hired Rhule. I replied with what makes you think Mullen would have any different results here than he did at Mississippi St and Florida. He was fired at Florida because his 5-6 season and 3rd year in a row of declining results, even though he won 82% of his games at Florida, wasn't enough. He didn't get it done to the satisfaction of the Gator folks so they fired him. His Mississippi St results were up and down, in his 9 seasons there, he had 4 where he won 6 games or less in the regular season and won 9 games or more 3 times. 3 nine win season at Nebraska in 9 years isn't going to get you 9 years. He went 5-7, 8-4,6-6, 8-4, and 6-6 during the regular season in his first 5 years. Many people want Rhule fired because he is doing in year 2 what Mullen did in year 3 and year 5 at Miss St. If Rhule has that regular season win percentage over his first 5 years at Nebraska, he wont see year 6, if he even survived year 3.
One more time, real slow. I am not comparing Mullen to Rhule head to head. I am asking what makes you think that Mullen would have done better at Nebraska than what Rhule is doing now? Is 33-27 in the regular season, for 5 years, going to be enough for any coach to survive past 5?
Correct it doesn't count. What he inherited at Baylor was nothing like the team that won 7 whole games the year before. Literally half the the team was no longer there when he was hired. 40 something scholarships were returning.
As I mentioned before, Temple had just moved up to the Big East/ ACC. The previous coach won 5 less games in the Big East than he did in the MAC the year before. Is the ACC a juggernaut, of course not, but pound for pound it is much better than the MAC.
You and @thall_ always want context when someone questions your takes but when there is context to refute your takes, its just BS in your mind.
Again if we want to use the standard for why Butler shouldn't be DC at Nebraska because no one wanted to hire him as DC since he left Penn St, what does that say about Mullen, who's best job, after getting dismissed by Florida, was 3rd string ESPN studio guy following MACtion Tuesday?
He was winning double digit games within 3 years at both previous college stops. He took better jobs each time he left. The NFL and college football are completely different animals. Since we are talking about college football and not the NFL, it seemed logical to only include college football.
What irony and how can irony be wrong? It is either ironic or it isn't.
I think they're both pretty equal.
Rhule turned some bad / average programs around. Has shown to get better results every year at both college teams he coached. Been in 3 CCG (out of 7 years) winning 1, dang close to a second by year 3. The Baylor team he took over was a complete mess.
Mullen did well as Mississippi St given that programs history. Started hot at Florida, but couldn't sustain success. Nobody really wanted him after Florida (or maybe he chose to be done), but his next HC gig is at a program like UNLV. Interesting to go from SEC down to MWC.
I'm interested to see how Rhule does long term if he's at a program for 7+ years.
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