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Daishon Neal, Sedrick King, Peyton Newell?

rrthusker said:
I don't see King starting but that's just me.
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Agreed on this. The current depth chart has Alex Davis second string behind Dzuris, with King behind Natter at the other DE spot. That would imply that next year, the starter in Dzuris's current DE spot would be Davis, unless Natter flips sides. Either way, it doesn't look like King will be starting at that spot next year.

That said, you never know how players will develop over time, and maybe King has several great bowl preparation practices, and then a strong winter in the weight room to get better. Just reading the tea leaves, it really seems like the coaches think A. Davis has the highest ceiling of the back-up DEs, but just needs more experience, so I will be surprised if he's not the starter opposite Freedom next year.
 
we need a JUCO end that can contribute

probably too thin at DT to go to a 3-4 .. as I think we have the LB depth to play this
 
NYC-Husker said:
Agreed on this. The current depth chart has Alex Davis second string behind Dzuris, with King behind Natter at the other DE spot. That would imply that next year, the starter in Dzuris's current DE spot would be Davis, unless Natter flips sides. Either way, it doesn't look like King will be starting at that spot next year.

That said, you never know how players will develop over time, and maybe King has several great bowl preparation practices, and then a strong winter in the weight room to get better. Just reading the tea leaves, it really seems like the coaches think A. Davis has the highest ceiling of the back-up DEs, but just needs more experience, so I will be surprised if he's not the starter opposite Freedom next year.
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Freedom and Colin Miller will be the starting D Ends next season.
 
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ThrowBones92 said:
Not doubting you, just wondering if you could elaborate on your statement and why you believe he will be the starter?
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He's the best pure pass rusher on the team right now. He was forced to redshirt because he arrived at 6'3 225. He's closer to 240 now and even more explosive. Miller, despite not receiving much fanfare on signing day, is actually the most highly rated DE currently on the roster. The kid was a 6'1 200 outside linebacker as a Junior in HS, when his high school coaches started playing him at the line of scrimmage. That staff did a great job of helping him develop terrific pass rushing skills.

When people who watch practice or when the coaches or when older players are asked about any scout team players, every one of them mention Collin Miller. Langsdorf even called him unblockable at times... I've heard he has even frustrated the hell out of Gates.

Miller is also a pure Weak Side DE. This team doesn't have many guys in that mold. Daishon is a Strong Side DE who will play a lot next year and jump Natter. Alex Davis is very athletic and will battle Miller for playing time at WDE, but Davis is still a novice within the Sport. He doesn't use his hands well, and struggles with recognition at times.

Quayshon Alexander could factor into the mix at WDE as well, but he's still recovering from surgery in August. Guy Thomas has the most upside, but even if he qualifies, he's still too skinny for the Big Ten. I know some people think Quay will play OLB, but he might be too athletic to keep off the field, but has virtually no experience in pass coverage.
 
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Cornicator said:
He's the best pure pass rusher on the team right now. He was forced to redshirt because he arrived at 6'3 225. He's closer to 240 now and even more explosive. Miller, despite not receiving much fanfare on signing day, is actually the most highly rated DE currently on the roster. The kid was a 6'1 200 outside linebacker as a Junior in HS, when his high school coaches started playing him at the line of scrimmage. That staff did a great job of helping him develop terrific pass rushing skills.

When people who watch practice or when the coaches or when older players are asked about any scout team players, every one of them mention Collin Miller. Langsdorf even called him unblockable at times... I've heard he has even frustrated the hell out of Gates.

Miller is also a pure Weak Side DE. This team doesn't have many guys in that mold. Daishon is a Strong Side DE who will play a lot next year and jump Natter. Alex Davis is very athletic and will battle Miller for playing time at WDE, but Davis is still a novice within the Sport. He doesn't use his hands well, and struggles with recognition at times.

Quayshon Alexander could factor into the mix at WDE as well, but he's still recovering from surgery in August. Guy Thomas has the most upside, but even if he qualifies, he's still too skinny for the Big Ten. I know some people think Quay will play OLB, but he might be too athletic to keep off the field, but has virtually no experience in pass coverage.
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Thank you for the info. I appreciate it!
 
I wasn't seeing it with Newell when people were trying to say he had this breakthrough spring and he was on his way. Turns out I wasn't on the crazy pills after all.

Mick, on the other hand, looks like he's gonna be a nice player at DT for a couple more years.
 
Cornicator said:
He's the best pure pass rusher on the team right now. He was forced to redshirt because he arrived at 6'3 225. He's closer to 240 now and even more explosive. Miller, despite not receiving much fanfare on signing day, is actually the most highly rated DE currently on the roster. The kid was a 6'1 200 outside linebacker as a Junior in HS, when his high school coaches started playing him at the line of scrimmage. That staff did a great job of helping him develop terrific pass rushing skills.

When people who watch practice or when the coaches or when older players are asked about any scout team players, every one of them mention Collin Miller. Langsdorf even called him unblockable at times... I've heard he has even frustrated the hell out of Gates.

Miller is also a pure Weak Side DE. This team doesn't have many guys in that mold. Daishon is a Strong Side DE who will play a lot next year and jump Natter. Alex Davis is very athletic and will battle Miller for playing time at WDE, but Davis is still a novice within the Sport. He doesn't use his hands well, and struggles with recognition at times.

Quayshon Alexander could factor into the mix at WDE as well, but he's still recovering from surgery in August. Guy Thomas has the most upside, but even if he qualifies, he's still too skinny for the Big Ten. I know some people think Quay will play OLB, but he might be too athletic to keep off the field, but has virtually no experience in pass coverage.
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You had that feeling like somebody from that LB class was gonna put his hand on the ground in college.
 
TheBeav815 said:
You had that feeling like somebody from that LB class was gonna put his hand on the ground in college.
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Surely they will move either Alexander or Jefferson down to DE. Add in Miller and Stille and we had a nice DE group. It's the total lack of DT's in last years class that could hurt us in the future.
 
headcard said:
Surely they will move either Alexander or Jefferson down to DE. Add in Miller and Stille and we had a nice DE group. It's the total lack of DT's in last years class that could hurt us in the future.
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Much like you looked at the LBs to predict who can move down to end, look at the DEs and ask who can move to tackle.

That class, as we well know, was part of the reason Hank ain't here and JP is. I really like the kid they have committed at DT. Love his pad level and how hard he is to move. Wouldn't shock me if they're looking for JUCO or somebody to grad transfer in there.
 
headcard said:
Surely they will move either Alexander or Jefferson down to DE. Add in Miller and Stille and we had a nice DE group. It's the total lack of DT's in last years class that could hurt us in the future.
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Maybe Alexander. Ive liked him at WDE since day 1. I doubt Stille does much next year as i view him as a BDE or maybe hybrid DT. At BDE hes behond Freedom and Neal and Natter AT LEAST. I dont expect much from him next year.


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