Covid-19 updates and analysis (long)

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  1. NikkiSixx

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    well heck, one can't believe anything that is posted out there anymore I guess.

    there is always something else posted that contradicts it.. doesn't have to be COVID related either..

    I guess sports game outcomes are the only thing factual these days..





    (yes, I'm waiting for the next post to disprove that one too)
     
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  2. litespeedhuskerfan

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    I think you are totally off base if you think it didn't have at least something to do with it. How much? Who knows...but did people riot the other two times you mentioned this happened? Riot like what we're seeing now? If not......
     
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  3. Charlie Marlow

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    There's been plenty of similar riots in the nation's pre-covid past. I would argue that the crisis undoubtedly made the crowds smaller. How much? Who knows.
     
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  5. Charlie Marlow

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    I think the author's main point was to explain how the methodology behind the numbers work and how that means the number of deaths estimated are probably lower than the actual number. There's probably another Bob that died similarly from the flu that would have died soon anyway, but there is no similar outrage about how flu deaths are being reported.

    Keep in mind, flu deaths are an estimate based off of actual numbers multiplied by a certain factor to account for unreported flu deaths. That isn't happening for covid-19 yet.
     
  6. litespeedhuskerfan

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    Outside of 1967, I couldn't find anything on riots in Minnesota, perhaps there has been, but I don't find it. I also would liken this to why prisons allow inmates to lift weights, walk outside, play basketball, etc. You cannot keep people caged up or cooped up or locked down, they get antsy....they act out. Floyd's death lit the powder keg, and people all over the United States followed suit. That isn't a left or right reaction, it's a human reaction.
     
  7. WHCSC

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    Being human and "cooped up or locked up" doesn't equal rioting in normal people
     
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    How quickly the Rodney King reaction is forgotten. No quarantine was needed then for the reaction and no quarantine now is responsible for the outbreak of violence!
     
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  9. litespeedhuskerfan

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    It's just my opinion, worth exactly what ya paid for it. Or maybe even less.
     
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  10. dinglefritz

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    I'm assuming you're not in health care. This was a terrible year for influenza and pneumonia long before COVID-19 got rolling in our area anyway. I don't care what the CDC estimates. They don't actually count the cases. I had a viral pneumonia as did multiple people I know...and yes some of them were tested and diagnosed with Influenza B as the primary pathogen. Some people assume they had COVID-19 back shortly after the holidays. In fact, most of them had severe respiratory infections that weren't COVID-19 which in many people required medical intervention.
     
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    Just wait "one second" and someone will come up with something

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    God I hate this image. That game was over.
     
  13. litespeedhuskerfan

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    GAWD I HATE THAT GAME!!!!!!! UGGH!!!!!!! WE HAD IT!!!!!!!
     
  14. litespeedhuskerfan

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    RollingLaugh

    ...we were posting the same thing at the same time. Uggh, did I mention how much I hated that game???
     
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    I don't think I've ever blocked anyone before, but you have me reconsidering my tolerant nature.
     
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    Sometimes you lose some, and sometimes you lose some. When it comes to replay, we've gotten royally screwed with or without it.

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  18. dinglefritz

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    Hospitalizations maybe more so than deaths is a key number. In my state the number of hospitalizations is remaining pretty constant even though the number of positive test results is way up. We've been doing a bunch of workplace screenings and finding a huge number of asymptomatic positives. I'm hearing anywhere from 40 to 80% are asymptomatic within a wide age range. It's still being debated whether those people actually spread the virus and if they do to what degree. Most of our hospitalizations and deaths are coming from nursing homes as I expected way back in January when Marlowe started this topic.
     
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    I guess I dont care if they count every death ytd as a covid death. We are still only slightly above our expected deaths ytd. I guess my question would be if it weren't for the coronavirus, would there be 100,000 less deaths this year? That would put us significantly below what would be expected, which would seem odd.
     
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    A pulmonologist that I "know" thinks that some of the deaths attributed to COVID-19 are actually due to the underlying health circumstances of the patient. In at least some cases the person was on the way out before they contracted COVID from a caregiver. Some are in hospice care. I'm not sure what to make of the death toll from COVID-19.
     
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    This. And we now have several weeks worth of data to use so it does appear that the people who died already had a high likelihood of dying anyway. Yes that sounds very cold-hearted and no, its not exact science because other causes of death are probably down but it does paint a picture of the actual risk of death and how much it has been elevated.
     
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    I will agree and I’m sure your source would agree that determining illness in people, let alone cause of death is a complex and imperfect science. It can be a chicken and egg argument. People probably died in the early stages related to COVID and weren’t counted. Some people who were suffering and “on the way out” maybe died a week, year or decade early. Micro level is hard, on a macro level we are probably +/- 20-30% with no real way of knowing. Is that good enough? Is it as good as we can do? Either way respiratory illnesses are an issue and we should continue our work on prevention and treatment.
     
  23. little a

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    Man I’m sure glad you “know” a lot of doctors- things that make u go hum......
     
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    Wouldn't be a surprise to have more illness in the fall if the masses try to exist in a germ and virus bubble until then. Immune system might be flabby and out of shape with all that time off.:confused:
     
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    Yeah, I don’t think people are trying too hard to live in a bubble from what I’ve seen.
     
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    Me neither. Natives are restless, where I live. Hospitals are not even taxed, let alone overtaxed. That has a whole lot to do with it.
     
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    Where’s Dr Fauci? Lurk
     
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    His message ceased to fit the media's agenda when he said "we can't remain shut down forever". When the numbers for drug and alcohol relapses, suicides and domestic abuse started rolling in he changed his tune. I think he also realized that the stay at home orders weren't doing much. Too many people couldn't stay at home.

    My own local nursing home which we thought was COVID free turned out to have it this week when they did mass testing. The test positive person was asymptomatic at the time of the test and none of the workers had been symptomatic as far as they knew.:confused:
     
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    probably changing his opinion (yet again) that because of the riots “I could easily see the inevitability of this virus Coming back again”
     
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    No no no. The idiots..er I mean protestors are all wearing masks. I'm so glad they're wearing masks to protect the rest of us.:rolleyes: It's interesting that the protestors are almost all 20 something white people.
     
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    those pesky white nationals. ;)
    Antifa is it.
     
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    Those protesters should have stayed at home.
     
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