You are seriously losing your shit. Get it togetherGiven your seeming lack of concern for babies and old people I think it was a completely logical question.
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A little over a month ago that could have been me, my spouse and 12 other folks from the U of I. You're right - I take it very seriously as do many other folks. My spouse just had a student who arrived from China a little over a week ago (right before this whole thing blew up.) Many universities have students/profs who go to China and Chines students/profs who come to the US for study.
Given your seeming lack of concern for babies and old people I think it was a completely logical question.
I don't have a lack of concern. I'm just honest. Every year the flu and similar viruses kill the old and very young. If you want to have a good convo, cut out the fallacy.
The common flu has a vaccination available for at risk populations. Corona V doesn't yet. THAT is the problem. I don't believe that the CDC is pushing the development of a Corona V vaccine to promote revenues for "big pharma". Do you think that is what the flu vaccination recommendations are about? It's a helluva lot cheaper to vaccinate people than to treat them in the hospital. Viral infections cost this country I'm sure billions of dollars of medical costs and lost productivity every year. Look at what the quarantines are costing China, the airlines and the cruise industries right now. Personally I am not afraid yet for my health. It may get there. We'll know more in a month or so I suspect.
Since when has the Flu been cured?!?!
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And there you have it. We have over a half million students in this country from China. Some of them no doubt have traveled back and forth.
Oh ok Boomer, let's go blaming exchange students. Let's put them all in camps.
Boomer amidoinitrite?
This could all be a distraction from something else as well. The old "wag the dog" is ran almost as much as the half back dive and rarely does anyone notice. Kudos to you! Vigilance is key.
Intelligence isn't memorizing a book or a degree. Intelligence is taking the information around you and using it in a manner that benefits you. Hopefully that is paired with a good morale compass.
When I first read about this it wasn't "plastered everywhere". I read stories from Reuters every day and pay particular attention to stories involving disease outbreaks due to my education and occupation. I didn't start this thread but was already well aware of what was going on. Again, my wife will be on the front line of this deal if it takes off in the U.S. We talk. The CDC seems to be at least a little concerned given the push for a vaccine. So much for "one blurb about this that even poses a fear". It would likely kill thousands in this country if it takes off here like it has in China and we're not ready with a vaccine. Daycares, nursing homes, hospitalized patients, people undergoing cancer treatments etc would be among the highest risk populations.
My prediction is this will disappear soon when it's no longer handy. In fact, the more I read about it, the mortality rate, the amount infected, etc I'm more concerned with getting a cold which would interfere with my work. Much like the time I've wasted on here reading and responding.
Sorry for coming off brash. I just have a completely different take on this entire spectacle.
100% yes I do, Money. Flu shots are a massive revenue stream. If they really cared about healing people the flu vaccine would be 100% effective. At best it is 60% effective at worst under 20%. Back in the day look at all the virus that were eliminated because of vaccines. That was with technology nothing close to what we have today. What is the last thing that has been "cured"? They have figured out there is much more money in keeping people sick vs healing them.
I will never ever ever get a flu shot. I will never have my kids get flu shot. My wife is a icu nurse and she and many of her colleagues don't believe in them because they have directly seen the very sick people who come into their ICU, sick with the flu, who got the vaccine.
I have had the flu once in my life (that Im aware of). The only reason I got it was because I was trapped in a house with my in laws (all who had the flu shot that year) who had. I was the last one to get in out of 10 of us. It is 100% a waste of money. I guess if you are elderly or severely immune compromised a 20-60% to not get the flu or minimize symptoms are better odds than nothing. For everyone else, not worth it.
This thread reminds me why I don't come to this board very often. Apparently we should only care about this virus if it affects Americans. Who cares about folks in China? And let's throw in a conspiracy theory or two. Then again, I'm one of those over 60 yrs of age folks so I guess I don't count for much anyway.
I have a different definition. I actually believe it’s a force as well. An equilibrium.
You count just a little as the rest of us. You apparently just believe you care more by reading snippets and misapplying them
you mean the flus that are far more contagious and have a much higher mortality rate? Those flus?
People almost spouting religion doesn't define a current problem.
Facts are, sars wasnt reported, and china aint rich.
Ok, so, sars not reported, under racted to by the chinese government, and it's been past it's total infection by this new mutation. It's still doubling as this time, not only has it been reported on by the chinese government early on, but, they shut down their biggest holiday of the year, new years, like our new years and Christmas thrown together, and then some because of its duration,which lasts weeks.
Besides canceling the holiday, they have shut down 50-60 million peoples ability to travel, quarantined them, they have spent tons of moneys, ticked 100s of millions of their people off by not having the holiday, and we have people naive enough to think this isn't a huge deal in china? And that we might also take procaution as well?
When your city gets quarantined, and you cant celebrate one that rd of your holidays for the year, and you read on the internet, its no big deal, really?
Facts are, sars wasnt reported, and china aint rich.
Ok, so, sars not reported, under racted to by the chinese government, and it's been past it's total infection by this new mutation. It's still doubling as this time, not only has it been reported on by the chinese government early on, but, they shut down their biggest holiday of the year, new years, like our new years and Christmas thrown together, and then some because of its duration,which lasts weeks.
Besides canceling the holiday, they have shut down 50-60 million peoples ability to travel, quarantined them, they have spent tons of moneys, ticked 100s of millions of their people off by not having the holiday, and we have people naive enough to think this isn't a huge deal in china? And that we might also take procaution as well?
When your city gets quarantined, and you cant celebrate one that rd of your holidays for the year, and you read on the internet, its no big deal, really?
They arent more contagious, that's exactly my point. The mortality rate matters little when you run right over the contagious factor, which you never addressed.
China doesn't put restrictions or out and out quarantine 60 million people on a whim. This is the flu I'm talking about, not those others.
I deal in facts. The flu infects more and has a higher mortality rate every year.
If this virus had a 2 week incubation and were infectious as you pose, this would be global right now and I wouldn’t be arguing with you.
What you’re doing is repeating the TV. I’d like to see more proof that this virus is more deadly and infectious than the flu and it’s not even close. Just hypothetically it is
Ok, china has done a ton more than theyve ever done, The world health organization has just issued a world wide emergency.
What I'm doing is math. If this keeps doubling every other day, and even if it has a 3% fatality rate, in two weeks,it reaches a million people, 3% who will be dead, thats 30,000.
Now,in a month? It wont be double that, more like 16 times that.
Thats facts, do the math, currently at over 7,000
Thats just chinas numbers by the way
Are you saying their motive isn't clear, or, that you know what it is and their ends?
So far, very restricted movement, canceled holidays,quarantines, and 99% of this is in china.
Thats what we know, reports appear to be its doubling every other day, even under these restrictions.
My question is, starting out by screening and quarantined requirements, we still dont know if we can contain it here.
Whether this is just practice at prevention, or something worse, its a worthy attempt, because at some point, there'll be one that's much worse.
Thats what we know, reports appear to be its doubling every other day, even under these restrictions.
My question is, starting out by screening and quarantined requirements, we still dont know if we can contain it here.
Whether this is just practice at prevention, or something worse, its a worthy attempt, because at some point, there'll be one that's much worse.
The numbers arent exact of the numbers who die from flu in this country, the numbers run from 3000 to 49000 per year, but the higher number is always challenged.
If this flu reaches a hundred thousand people, 3000 will be dead from it,already the low number acredited to deaths in this country.
If this flu reaches a hundred thousand people, 3000 will be dead from it,already the low number acredited to deaths in this country.
It is.
So,theres no ifs in your reality? You are certain it wont continue to do what its done?
If so, tell us. Dont hide. Tell us, tell us that this flu wont go up, wont stay the same, but is guaranteed to change within two weeks.
We want your facts, your reality, to set aside any worries.
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