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Kimber makes a nice handgun but you can purchase a whole bunch of less expensive handguns that conceal easier for less than the Kimber's MSRP of $1,651.00. If this is your only handgun and you plan on practicing a lot the .45 auto gets expensive...a 1000 round case of Blazer Brass 9mm 124 grain is $209.80 at the online vendor I use
 
Can't say that I know much about the Kimber. Most of the reviews I've read mention the S&W Shield and the Kahr Arms series. Both very concealable and both much cheaper that what it sounds like the Kimber goes for.
 
Kimber is top drawer, known for fit & finish. That said, it's a metal tool. Not a piece of jewelry.

For the money, I'd rather have two other firearms that will also get the job done. And you can never have enough ammo.
 
My EDC is a Shield 9mm. Great conceal & carry for concealment and comfort.

If your looking for a step up from the shield I would highly recommend the Springfield Armory XDM series. I absolutely love this series. They are double stacked and shoot great. They are a little heavier due to double stack but are IMO the best buy for your money.

Lots of people love Glocks, just not my taste.

Kimber is a good manufacturer but I think they are over priced.
 
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thanks for the ammo info, 20 cents a shot doesn't sound bad.
I seen the S&W and looked at a small karr 9.
It's weird how there's a lot of guns around 500 to 600 dollars, then for a ed brown, nighthawk, wilson combat or les baer, they all jump to 3 grand plus. the only concel carry 45 I seen for around 800 was a HK compact.

I will look at the XDM. I want the best .45 I can get for around the price of that kimber. then that will be my only pistol for a couple decades. the last .45 I got was a S&W that looked like don johnsons in miami vice. the thing is huge. but apparently is worth the same about I bought it for still.
 
I have an m&P shield 9mm for carry. I also have the xdm .45 with the 3.8 barrel no way I would conceal carry that it's way too heavy.
 
My EDC is a Shield 9mm. Great conceal & carry for concealment and comfort.

If your looking for a step up from the shield I would highly recommend the Springfield Armory XDM series. I absolutely love this series. They are double stacked and shoot great. They are a little heavier due to double stack but are IMO the best buy for your money.

Lots of people love Glocks, just not my taste.

Kimber is a good manufacturer but I think they are over priced.

This is sage advice.
 
Have it love it. I will not carry a gun that does not have a great trigger and is reliable. Kimber is both and well worth the money. Glock also has a good trigger, but is too wide. Smith and Wesson does not have a good trigger. Just my opinion.
 
What you are going to find is lots of opinions on this. Guns have to fit you. I read an article a while back about where the value begins to decline for spending high dollars on a pistol. If money is no concern and the Kimber fits your hand and needs then go for it. There are lots of alternatives as have already mentioned. I know several people who carry the Shield and Kahr and love them. I don't find the Kahr to be quite as refined but that was me on a small sample. A lot of people love the Glocks, just do not fit me. I love the XDM, but they are heavy. Personal opinion, and I know some will disagree, but I think some of the Kimber stuff is over priced.
 
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I open carry my Colt Government and it fits me just fine. It's reliable and the trigger is beautiful. We just purchased a M&P Shield in 45ACP for my girlfriend's CCW. We put about 100 rounds down it already and it's performed flawlessly. The trigger isn't as nice as my Colt but that was to be expected.
 
What you are going to find is lots of opinions on this. Guns have to fit you. I read an article a while back about where the value begins to decline for spending high dollars on a pistol. If money is no concern.and the Kimber fits your hand and needs then go for it. There are lots of alternatives as have already mentioned. I know several people who carry the Shield and Kahr and love them. I don't find the Kahr to quite as refined but that was me on a small sample. A lot of people love the Glocks, just do not fit me. I love the XDM, but they are heavy. Personal opion, and I know some will disagree, but I think some of the Kimber stuff is over priced.
Most of the gun smiths/dealers that I know that conceal carry every day every waking minute carry a SW hammerless .38. Very light and easy to conceal in your front pocket but with enough power to discourage folks. IF you need more ammo than that you probably don't want to carry it in your gun all day long. Light, simple, jam free, cheap and hold their value.
 
Most of the gun smiths/dealers that I know that conceal carry every day every waking minute carry a SW hammerless .38. Very light and easy to conceal in your front pocket but with enough power to discourage folks. IF you need more ammo than that you probably don't want to carry it in your gun all day long. Light, simple, jam free, cheap and hold their value.

That's what my girlfriend had and we upgraded to the M&P
 
Most of the gun smiths/dealers that I know that conceal carry every day every waking minute carry a SW hammerless .38. Very light and easy to conceal in your front pocket but with enough power to discourage folks. IF you need more ammo than that you probably don't want to carry it in your gun all day long. Light, simple, jam free, cheap and hold their value.

My wife carries a LCP in 38. She has a difficult time with hand strength and racking a semi-auto. I think the revolver is a good way to go overall but the OP was talking SA and 45. Dependable and easy to use, quick. I carry an LCP, 380 is minimal for power but it fits the pocket very well.
 
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My wife carries a LCP in 38. She has a difficult time with hand strength and racking a semi-auto. I think the revolver is a good way to go overall but the OP was taking SA and 45. Dependable and easy to use, quick. I carry an LCP, 380 is minimal for power but it fits the pocket very well.
I was going to buy my lady a Colt Defender but she also has weak hands so that was a no go. The M&P Shield 45 was easy for her work the slide. We have to pick up a speed loader cause loading the magazine is almost impossible for her.
 
I have the Springfield XDS 45, single stack, really small for a 45, and I love it. Good quality and you can find them for around $500 or so. With the flush mag it only holds 5 in the mag and 1 in the chamber if you want. I don't feel I need more than 5 rounds.
 
Have a Glock for regular carry and love it and just received a 380 Sig for wearing a suit etc. and other times I can't carry the Glock.
 
thanks for the ammo info, 20 cents a shot doesn't sound bad.

20 cents a round is for 9mm FMJ Brass cased...for .45 you are looking at about 27 cents a round for FMJ Brass cased.
In the last several years I have sold or traded every handgun I owned in various calibers and purchased/traded for all 9mm Sig Sauer handguns. I shoot a lot and it was just getting too expensive buying various ammo especially .45 ACP and .357 Sig.
Quite a few of my friends have the XD Series handgun and really like them.
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/45acp?ca=brass&co=new
 
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I have a Sig 229 for carry. My buddy has a glock 19 and shield for carry, it all on preference and what works for you. My next purchase I want a Wilson combat ultra light compact, they are spendy though.
 
I went to a store today and handled some of them guns, them things are small these days!
I have a question, I heard someone say now that 9mm has plus p...it's kinda like a .45
does .45 ammo have plus p? and can you shoot it out of the kimber I originally posted?
 
anybody have an opinion on this gun?

http://www.kimberamerica.com/ultra-rcp-ii-lg

would it be a good choice for that price range? Im not sure about the channel sight.

I can't afford a ed brown cobra light.
Let me ask all you Dirty Harrys out there what exactly is it you plan to do with your concealed carry ?

Are you going to be like Harry and save the day when someone holds up a restaurant and all its customers ?
 
Let me ask all you Dirty Harrys out there what exactly is it you plan to do with your concealed carry ?

Are you going to be like Harry and save the day when someone holds up a restaurant and all its customers ?

1- I'm exercising my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

2- I believe it's up to me to protect my family and myself from those that do not obey the law by trying to steal, kill, and destroy.

3- I carry because it's like having a fire extinguisher in your house. You don't have it because you are starting fires but because you ONLY want to keep yourself from dying. Also I have both a fire extinguisher and a gun because you never know when you might need them and it's always better to have and not need than to need and not have.

4- Those that buy and carry legally are by FBI statistics the most law abiding citizens in the country and commit only .001% of crimes.
 
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I went to a store today and handled some of them guns, them things are small these days!
I have a question, I heard someone say now that 9mm has plus p...it's kinda like a .45
does .45 ammo have plus p? and can you shoot it out of the kimber I originally posted?
A 9mm is nothing like a 45 ACP. Smokin
45versus9mm.jpg
 
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Let me ask all you Dirty Harrys out there what exactly is it you plan to do with your concealed carry ?

Are you going to be like Harry and save the day when someone holds up a restaurant and all its customers ?
to resist tyranny of centralized government, and to curb the reprobate who has no re-guard for the second use of the law. and varmit eating if there is a zombie Kodak bear end-days. plus there's a cool factor in their too. plus as a Calvinist I don't believe in luck, like dirty harry. that's like roman goddess fortuna worship.
 
Walmart has a box of 50- 230 grain FMJ RN 45ACP W/ aluminum case for $14.89.

My Colt eats them like M&M's.
 
A 9mm is nothing like a 45 ACP. Smokin
45versus9mm.jpg
well that's what they said anyway. I allways heard (from military folks) a .45 puts them down and a 9mm just gets them angry. that's why I'm .45, but I wonder what a .45 plus p would be like or if they make them?
 
well that's what they said anyway. I allways heard (from military folks) a .45 puts them down and a 9mm just gets them angry. that's why I'm .45, but I wonder what a .45 plus p would be like or if they make them?
If you're going to go with the 45 ACP just stick with the basic tested proven round. And that's a 230 grain FMJ. You hear all this stuff about Target ammo... ball ammo...practice ammo don't listen to that. The 9mm people had to come up with a way to match your 45 and that's where you your JHP rounds came from. And you'll hear hollow point described as self defense rounds. To me this is all jargon in my opinion. The 9 mm is faster and so it blows apart once it comes in contact with soft tissue. If you try to use hollow point in a 45 you're not going to get much different result because the speed of the bullet is slow enough that it doesn't fragment with the same efficiency. In short, your grandfather killed many of the enemies with his 230 grain FMJ for a reason... It's the ultimate self defense round.
 
If you're going to go with the 45 ACP just stick with the basic tested proven round. And that's a 230 grain FMJ. You hear all this stuff about Target ammo... ball ammo...practice ammo don't listen to that. The 9mm people had to come up with a way to match your 45 and that's where you your JHP rounds came from. And you'll hear hollow point described as self defense rounds. To me this is all jargon in my opinion. The 9 mm is faster and so it blows apart once it comes in contact with soft tissue. If you try to use hollow point in a 45 you're not going to get much different result because the speed of the bullet is slow enough that it doesn't fragment with the same efficiency. In short, your grandfather killed many of enemy's with his 230 grain FMJ for a reason... It's the ultimate self defense round.
Ok thanks for the info red rover!
"50- 230 grain FMJ RN 45ACP W/ aluminum case"
50 = 50 rounds
230 = amount of gun powder
FMJ = full metal jacket?
RN = not sure what that means
45 = the gun
ACP = not sure what that means, decribes the gun?
W/aluminum case = the outside is aluminum
not sure what JHP means? plus -p? a more high powered gun powder?
I thank everyone for their suggestions, I think I'm going with the Kimber because all them guns are small, it's what I can afford, and I'm only going to buy one gun. and besides works well it's kinda pretty too.
 
Ok thanks for the info red rover!
"50- 230 grain FMJ RN 45ACP W/ aluminum case"
50 = 50 rounds
230 = amount of gun powder
FMJ = full metal jacket?
RN = not sure what that means
45 = the gun
ACP = not sure what that means, decribes the gun?
W/aluminum case = the outside is aluminum
not sure what JHP means? plus -p? a more high powered gun powder?
I thank everyone for their suggestions, I think I'm going with the Kimber because all them guns are small, it's what I can afford, and I'm only going to buy one gun. and besides works well it's kinda pretty too.
JHP-Jacket Hollow Point
P= hotter load.
 
@redwine65
I was going to get a Kimber till I decided on my Colt Government. They have the Defender which is the compact and the Commander which is the mid size. I was going through this exact same debate and the Colt didn't disappoint.
 
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I was going to get a Kimber till I decided on my Colt Government. They have the Defender which is the compact and the Commander which is the mid size. I was going through this exact same debate and the Colt didn't disappoint.
ok I'll check out colt defenders and their price/looks. you made hollow points sound not really effective with a .45, but do they affect anything negitivly if you use them anyway? like accuracy?
 
ok I'll check out colt defenders and their price/looks. you made hollow points sound not really effective with a .45, but do they affect anything negitivly if you use them anyway? like accuracy?
I I think the difference is negligible as far as accuracy goes. Also you aren't going to get the same penetration with a 45 JHP compared to a FMJ. But some see that as a plus in a heavily populated area. You don't want to send a bullet through 3 different people.
 
Grains refers to the actual projectile (bullet) weight and not the amount of gunpowder....if you were shooting a .45 with 230 grains of powder I would want to be about a mile away.

Using +P (pressure) in your handgun may void it's warranty so always check to see if your handgun is rated for it
 
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Sorry I just glanced at that post.

RN= round nose.
230 Grain= weight of ballistic/bullet
FMJ= solid ball ballistic/bullet
Casing= it's what the bullet is security to and the powder is filled. Most the time it's brass but this is aluminum.
 
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