obviously the guy's been a lightning rod on the board, but credit where it's due: Coach Chins has gotten a lot of positive recognition on the recruiting front these past two weeks.
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People didn’t like Charlie McBride at first either. Tons of complaints about how his slow Big 8 defense could not keep up with the Florida schools. And there was some truth to those complaints. So... NU shifted its recruiting focus in the early 90’s and started recruiting speed on defense. McBride suddenly became a riverboat gambler, playing man to man in the secondary and then blitzing the shit out of QB’s. The rest is history.Just need a pass rush. Get that and everyone will think he’s a genius
McBride laid the framework for how to stop offenses like what spurrier ran. No defense can be quite as effective against a dual threat QB.People didn’t like Charlie McBride at first either. Tons of complaints about how his slow Big 8 defense could not keep up with the Florida schools. And there was some truth to those complaints. So... NU shifted its recruiting focus in the early 90’s and started recruiting speed on defense. McBride suddenly became a riverboat gambler, playing man to man in the secondary and then blitzing the shit out of QB’s. The rest is history.
But it was a defense geared toward crushing the pocket passer offenses from Florida. It remained vulnerable, as all man to man schemes are, to the dual threat QB. It wasn’t a fluke that Corby Jones shredded that defense in 97.
It remains to be seen what our identity on defense will be under Chins. It looks to me like we want speed, speed, and more speed. McBride part II. Frost remembers those defenses too....
Just need a pass rush. Get that and everyone will think he’s a genius
It's kind of his responsibility to be able to generate a pass rush.I don't think we've seen the real Coach Chin yet. By nature he's an aggressive coach who's not afraid to take risk if there's a decent chance it'll work out. Unfortunately our pass rush hasn't been effective enough for us to take many chances.
Hopefully the pass rush develops and we get to see what Chin really has in store for our Blackshirts!
the last sentence of every one of your posts ends in a !Down the stretch? You mean Maryland and Iowa the 2 worst offenses in the Big Ten? Not sure that says much. Early and late against Iowa I would not say the defense performed well at all!
How bout Wisconsin? 31 points if you exclude the special teams TD that screwed us. They played well enough for us to be in a position to win.Down the stretch? You mean Maryland and Iowa the 2 worst offenses in the Big Ten? Not sure that says much. Early and late against Iowa I would not say the defense performed well at all!
Down the stretch? You mean Maryland and Iowa the 2 worst offenses in the Big Ten? Not sure that says much. Early and late against Iowa I would not say the defense performed well at all!
McBride’s worst defenses were still way better than Chins best defense.People didn’t like Charlie McBride at first either. Tons of complaints about how his slow Big 8 defense could not keep up with the Florida schools. And there was some truth to those complaints. So... NU shifted its recruiting focus in the early 90’s and started recruiting speed on defense. McBride suddenly became a riverboat gambler, playing man to man in the secondary and then blitzing the shit out of QB’s. The rest is history.
But it was a defense geared toward crushing the pocket passer offenses from Florida. It remained vulnerable, as all man to man schemes are, to the dual threat QB. It wasn’t a fluke that Corby Jones shredded that defense in 97.
It remains to be seen what our identity on defense will be under Chins. It looks to me like we want speed, speed, and more speed. McBride part II. Frost remembers those defenses too....
Georgia Tech says hi.McBride’s worst defenses were still way better than Chins best defense.
I wouldn't say "we just need to get a pass rush" as we need several other things. Like better tackling, better technique getting off blocks, better communication and coverage so we don't give up the big 3rd down plays.
Our LB play has not been stellar by any measurement. Do we just have marginal players or is it something else. Asking for a friend.
obviously the guy's been a lightning rod on the board, but credit where it's due: Coach Chins has gotten a lot of positive recognition on the recruiting front these past two weeks.
In fairness, I don’t think the tackling has been nearly as bad as it was under teams before Frost. Of course an improvement at the linebacker position is important but the lack of any pressure by a front 4 really stunts what a team wants to do. Furthermore, when he sent an extra player or two they also couldn’t get to the QB which left receivers wide open.I wouldn't say "we just need to get a pass rush" as we need several other things. Like better tackling, better technique getting off blocks, better communication and coverage so we don't give up the big 3rd down plays.
Our LB play has not been stellar by any measurement. Do we just have marginal players or is it something else. Asking for a friend.
Really going to throw Georgia Tech in Charlie's memory when Charlie gave up over 40 a total of 4 times in 19 years and Chin has already given up 40 or more 4 times with one of those in the 50's? I might add one of the games for Charlie was against O-State when the offense scored 63. That seems like a fair comparison! Add in Georgia Tech ended that season ranked Numero Uno!
The big difference is Charlie saw that something was not working right and he went out of his comfort zone and fixed the issue. Also if someone was screwing up, Coach McBride would sit their ass.People didn’t like Charlie McBride at first either. Tons of complaints about how his slow Big 8 defense could not keep up with the Florida schools. And there was some truth to those complaints. So... NU shifted its recruiting focus in the early 90’s and started recruiting speed on defense. McBride suddenly became a riverboat gambler, playing man to man in the secondary and then blitzing the shit out of QB’s. The rest is history.
But it was a defense geared toward crushing the pocket passer offenses from Florida. It remained vulnerable, as all man to man schemes are, to the dual threat QB. It wasn’t a fluke that Corby Jones shredded that defense in 97.
It remains to be seen what our identity on defense will be under Chins. It looks to me like we want speed, speed, and more speed. McBride part II. Frost remembers those defenses too....
You know, this is an opinion-based board You don't have to qualify yourself all over the place. Just say you don't like Chins. You ask for people to convince you then qualify what they can use as evidence. You've already made up your mind, just own it.I hope Chin figures it out here also. But right now there is no history that says he will be able to do that. If I am wrong please show me where it happened for longer than a game or so and ever against a decent offense! And no I will not find Auburn in the bowl game an acceptable example!
10 of your 24 points were scored by the Nebraska D, were they not? Also 1 TD given up by NE was a kick return. It would appear that of the 27 Iowa points your defense in a overall sense gave up 10. That’s good imo.Down the stretch? You mean Maryland and Iowa the 2 worst offenses in the Big Ten? Not sure that says much. Early and late against Iowa I would not say the defense performed well at all!
In fairness, I don’t think the tackling has been nearly as bad as it was under teams before Frost. Of course an improvement at the linebacker position is important but the lack of any pressure by a front 4 really stunts what a team wants to do. Furthermore, when he sent an extra player or two they also couldn’t get to the QB which left receivers wide open.
Iowa scored 20 points on the defense (7 was kick return)Defense gave up runs of 45 and 55 for touchdowns in the first quarter. Not sure where you are getting ten points allowed from!
The defense gave our offense the ball what 5 times in the first half of a game this year ON the opponents side of the field and we scored I think 13 points out of that. Hell I think he gave the O the ball inside the 5 once and we failed to score. Yes we lost that game. Purdue maybe?He and the defense get more criticism than they deserve. What side of the ball improved this year from last year—offense, defense, or special teams? Which side of the ball bailed out the other side time and time again? Which coach had his job threatened the most by fans?
Chins and the defense were not the problem this year. They were serviceable—not great—but good enough to win more than 5 games. I don’t think we’ll ever have elite defenses under Chins, but above average should be damn good enough if this offense ever gets going like it’s supposed to, and special teams are no longer atrocious.
I miss ‘Mangino math’ on unsportsmanlike conduct when Kugler and Severe were the hosts.
The defense gave our offense the ball what 5 times in the first half of a game this year ON the opponents side of the field and we scored I think 13 points out of that. Hell I think he gave the O the ball inside the 5 once and we failed to score. Yes we lost that game. Purdue maybe?
obviously the guy's been a lightning rod on the board, but credit where it's due: Coach Chins has gotten a lot of positive recognition on the recruiting front these past two weeks.
Oh, okay, thanks. They should probably just forfeit the next season & fold the football program altogether.Doesn't matter if they are taught the same bad habits, fundamentals, techniques , and schemes by Chins.