I'm glad the kid has some good options out there. Interestingly, Miami and K-State both had two very good backs last year who are heading to the NFL.
CharMar Brown. RB
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Why do you have such a problem with people wanting this kid to come here?
People from Nebraska wanting a kid from Omaha to come here and help a spot Nebraska has lacked talent at for years. Wow mind blowing.
His points are valid. I don’t think anyone is against the kid being added to the roster. The kid had a nice year at NDSU, is thus a hot portal commodity and has teams in need looking at him. NU is not going to overpay for the kid. The NU coaches (Holgerson) liked EJ and Ives coming out of the bowl period. If there were concerns with either of those guys, he would have been looking in winter. In fact, Holgerson has been very positive in his remarks about the RB room since he told Barthel that they needed to hit the hole when it opens.
Because he is 20 months removed from being basically unrecruited by every power 4/5 team in the country. He sits out a year, then is one of 2 running backs, a team with a running QB, on the FCS national championship team. They played in 16 games and while his 244 carries and 1181 yards looks impressive, it is literally 15 carries for 73 yards per game and 4.8 ypc. Emmitt Johnson in the last 3 games of the regular season and the bowl game rushed for 314 yards on 59 carries 5.3 ypc. In the last 4 games, the FCS playoffs, Brown had 55 carries for 216 yards, 3.93 ypc and 1 TD.
I don't necessarily have anything against this player, I just don't believe he is the difference between 7-6 and 9-4. I definitely do not believe he is worth getting into a bidding war. And if he wasn't a local kid, no one on the forum would be concerned at all about this guy. Everyone on here, myself included, complains about not winning games yet when it comes down to picking up a transfer player or a HS recruit, it appears it is more important to overpay for a local player than to go all in on a national recruit.
I don’t understand why the staff would be, at least from what we are hearing, slow playing him.
Seems to me like he is exactly what we need in the backfield. If we are not going to “overpay” for him then what exactly are we saving the money for? There aren’t any big time players at more expensive positions that we are going to get anyways.
Theres no salary cap and this will be the final roster we have going into perhaps the most important season of Rhule’s career with potentially his job and that of the seemingly 100 other 6-7 figure salaried football department assistants and executives he’s decided to employ.
Why we would let anyone outbid us for a position of need, and then lose him to teams like Miami that probably already have a better backfield than us is beyond me.
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If EJ wasn’t hired at Nebraska, Ives would be at Monmouth right now and no P 4/5 offers. And correct me if I’m wrong but Nelson would have taken a post grad year at a prep school with no P 4/5 offers. The staff might like those two but they are very unproven backs in their own right. And Brown now has more P 4/5 offers then those two
And for those that say they like Ives. Kid has 7 yards on 6 attempts. And that includes 4 yards on 3 rushes against UTEP the #102 rushing defense in the nation last year. It’s not crazy that Husker fans don’t have a lot of faith in him. All our other backs ran well in that game. Maybe he’s changed or maybe EJ is willing to die on the hill. Time will tell
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Not the point. You are taking one small portion of a comment and attempting to poke holes in the entire thing.
My point is that apparently Nebraska's staff doesn't believe he is that much of a difference maker. If they did, they would be doing more than "kicking the tires" on the player.
Jamarion Parker had reported offers from a host of P4 teams last year, and was a 4 star recruit on this site and listed as #177 nationally.
over the past few years at least, a RB down the depth chart at Nebraska has ended up getting a lot of run by the end of the season and in some cases out performing the players that were playing ahead of them.
I don't think he's good at developing anyone either..
Dana is an air raid guy.. he cares about passing the ball, so he's not going to invest in what it takes to have a good RB room that can actually RUN the ball.. in his mind, it's just another position for either blockers, or pass catchers.
If we don’t make our best effort to land Brown and then proceed to struggle in short yardage this season or Ives fails to produce….then what? It would be excuse after excuse. Right now they seemingly have the opportunity the remove themselves from falling into that trap.
So your answer to having more faith is to add another unranked high school recruit with one good season at North Dakota St, where in the FCS playoffs he underperformed compared to his regular season stats. In their game against Colorado, the 71st ranked rushing defense, I believe he had 9 carries for 33 yards.
Then you want to compare garbage time reps for Ives as some sort of proof he isn't any good.
Maybe he would have been at Monmouth, and maybe he runs for 1500 yards and enters the portal and ends up at a power 4 team.
Nelson was going to UConn with Barthel.
I don’t know exactly how good he would be, but I have more confidence in him producing than Ives. Do you think Ives would be an FCS all American? I don’t really care about ypc. To rush for that many yards and TDs is very impressive even in that league.
There’s a reason why several P4 program really want him. If Ives hit the portal right now I can guarantee you it would not be for a P4 program.
Rhamir had the same stat line vs Colorado. I was a better fan of RJ than Ives. I liked RJ. Always did.
The garbage time is all we got. What would you like me to rely on? My faith in the staff?
And besides Brown still had a better stat line against a better defense than Ives ever has. And that was his first ever game as a true freshman. But go ahead and ignore that. Play it down. Ignore the facts
Because the staff at Nebraska only cares about passing the ball. Jamarion has track level speed and can catch the ball.. he's a small player, he's not going to run in between the tackles if ever, and won't be a pass blocker either. They want him strictly for the speed.
We don't have any durable running backs.. even Sipple says you can't give EJ 30 carries a game.
Everything this staff is actually doing, tells me they only care about the pass.
But the husker fans here celebrating all this seem to think it's okay.
They don't actually want a proven award winner in their program, but instead want to act like he is some kind of average player. It fricken disgusts me how some of you people are acting.
And indeed you were saying he didn't have a visit setup, when HE DID. You don't know jack.
Furthermore, you talk about lower level running backs emerging late in the season.. isn't that an indictment on the RB coach? why isn't he putting the best guy forward?
do you realize how stupid that statement makes you look?
UConn. Wow. Burn. LOL. This isn’t basketball. And it was the same dam coach recruiting him. LOL
if he went to Monmouth and ran for 1,500 that would be ok to go after him because he wasn’t from Nebraska right?
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Sorry you got me on that. Notch that up. Still his first game. Still better than Ives
What did Ives do against Colorado?
why? he wrote "It would be excuse after excuse. Right now they seemingly have the opportunity the remove themselves from falling into that trap." As if signing Brown was a guaranteed way to not have an excuse for a backup RB to underperform.
It wasn't supposed to be a "burn". I was just stating he wasn't going to a prep school.
And actually you are proving my point with the comment about Ives and Monmouth. No one would even know about him because he wasn't from Nebraska. He would just be a guy that had a good season at a lower level of football. If Brown was from the Connecticut or somewhere in the northeast, and had a decent year at NDSU, no one would be upset that Nebraska wasn't recruiting him.
Brown is a proven award winner at the college level, one of the top backs available in the portal, his strength is actually as a running back, running inside.. and we don't have a proven #2, our #2 looks like a wideout and hasn't shown anything last year than maybe 1 or 2 returns that I would classify as decent only. We don't have anyone proven other than EJ, and he can't take a ton or reps. The rest of the running back room other than maybe Booth, looks pretty bunk or only a small speedy guy. It just tells me that they don't want to run the ball, and that should be a sin at Nebraska, especially when you got a chance to get a proven guy in to help you.
Brown is probably better than Ives . But let get the awards straight. Brown was A fsc freshman all American not A fsc all American.
Nebraska will run the ball more than you think. I would bet that Nebraska has 2500 yards on the ground and will be a top 30 rushing yards team.
And who cares what Sipple says.
Well, as of now, he still isn't coming to Nebraska on Thursday.
If OP hasn’t figured out by now that Sipple is an idiot. There isn’t much hope for him.
IF. IF. IF. “if Jared Crick wasn’t from Nebraska would Nebraska have recruited or Andy Janovich or Spencer Long”
If isn’t the reality.
If Barthel wasn’t an under recruited RB from the east coast would he love under recruited RBs from the east coast?
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It is reality. Brown has 3 1/2 suitors. Cal, Miami, Kansas St and the 1/2 is Nebraska. And the only reason Nebraska is looking at him at all is because he is from the home state.
So I started this thread and have not said one word regarding Sipple. If it weren’t for a misstated report by AK on KETV/Omaha none of this discussion ever happens, IMO. In the end, whatever happens, happens and we all move on.
Jesus look at all the guys from NDSU and SDSU and other FSC schools that have gone in the portal . Have you bitched or even bothered to see where they go. The only reason it’s a topic on this board is the kid is from Nebraska.
And Brown probably wouldn’t be considering us if he wasn’t from Nebraska. Why not use what leverage we can with what few players we have from the state.
Nebraska indeed acting like a 1/2 school if they aren't legitimately interested.. I just don't get fans that defend this kind of recruiting behavior (if what you're saying is true.).
Like I said earlier. 2 out of the last 3 years SDSU has had 2 RBs drafted in the NFL. Both were on active rosters last year. So yeah I trust their track record @ RB . The reason this is a topic is because a lot of people don’t have faith in the depth at RB and this seems like a kid we could have an in on. Would have loved to get Jaivian Thomas. But logic says, pretty good looking back born from the state seems like an easier grab than some kid from Cal.
So is this perhaps also the new “GM” also saying we are good at RB and don’t need anyone else?
Because that’s hilarious if true considering he’s not even been in CFB nor does he likely have any idea the quality of our RB room relative to other top programs we are competing with.
Why that guy was even hired for a 7 figure job that’s completely unnecessary without there being an actual salary cap beats me, but that’s for a whole nother discussion I suppose.
Because I have no control over who they recruit. There is a difference between defending it and understanding it.
When I watched his tape, he was a nice player on a really good team. They had 2 other players that ran for 600 yards on the season, one was the QB that carried the ball 145 times who was a very efficient thrower of the ball. 75% 3200 yards and 33 TDs and 4 INT.
The QB was the star of the team. Brown was the benefactor of a team with a very good FCS QB and a good OLine that only gave up 20 sacks in 390 attempts over 16 games, where the team rushed for over 3000 yards as well.
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