I can't believe you took the time to write this garbage.
People with no valid point resort to emotional pleas to advance their agenda.
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Cancelling the season was the right decision
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I can't believe you took the time to write this garbage.
People with no valid point resort to emotional pleas to advance their agenda.
#fail
This whole "long term effects" scare tactic is really working. How do we know the long term effects if people have only just gotten this in the last few months? If myocarditis is actually a serious long term threat, why the hesitancy to use HCQ because it might cause a short term QT prolongation?
This is panic porn at its best and its working
You've also been helpless each time she got the flu or any other illness. Nevermind that the flu kills 1000s more young people...
Everyone needs to wear a mask, even though they haven't stopped viruses for the last 1000 years.
Oh and if you don't have one just wear a bandana or whatever. Totally fine.
Definite snowflake mentality.
Do you have any idea of the collateral damage of these shutdowns? The CDC just announced that 25% of Americans 18-24 have seriously considered suicide recently. That number is going to go up the longer this nonsense goes on.
I'd love to have a fall sports season, but that takes a HUGE backseat to my desire that we stop stealing the peace, mental health, and opportunity from our young people because of a virus that which to date as killed .00028% of them.
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I don’t think the players realize what they are risking, thx to their maturity level. No one thinks they’re getting the virus till they get it.
I am concerned because I’ve seen firsthand how evil this virus is, having lost a friend. One can always make wealth. There’s no coming back from permanent disability or death.
No player thinks they are getting CTE, paralyzed, torn ligaments, etc. they should probably just stay home. They’re just stupid kids.
They are adults. They (and we) have a right to make our own assessment of the risks and act accordingly. Given that they have a higher chance of death from blunt force trauma during a game than from this virus, I'd say they have a perfectly fine understanding of the risks.
The players are vocally unafraid of catching it pal. You think they believe they are immune? It takes maturity to evaluate risk, and you fail to recognize real risk. Everything you do in life comes with risk. "Having lost a friend" tactic is bullshit.
GTFO here. Players die because of heat and other underlying conditions. You have your opinion but be done
You can't cancel everything. And in the end, you've canceled too much to go back. Life is risky.
Putting aside the question of whether they should play or not
Explain how players have the right to play college football as long as they know the risks - do they have a lawful or constitutional right that mandates the NCAA-conferences and universities provide them the opportunity to play football?
Make general statements often? Who are "the players" all of them? You make a equally across the board statement that they do not have the "maturity level" to make an informed decision. I suppose their parents and other support group members are also negligent in this area?
I am not proposing or suggesting anything but the blanket statements you make are far from reasonable.
Of course the virus is "evil" and so are a multitude of conditions that befall college athletes. Another generalization on your part. I am also convinced that doctors are much better equipped with information to make better treatment decisions. Locally, we have minimal numbers and our local Drs. were not certain what even worked, there is a lot more information for them to glean now that will be helpful in heading off the more serious cases. That is not to say that ALL problems can be eliminated as you seem to suggest. This is life, there are no guarantees.
I think it's more of a morale thing." We're all in this together." I've never been fit tested for a surgical mask.
Having college football games isn’t going to stop the collateral damage resulting from COVID and unnecessarily puts players at risk.what about the costs in terms of hospitalizations that will happen to players and possible long term disabilities. You are merely focused on the benefits but have not taken a hard enough look at the risks.
you can cancel college football because the risks outweigh the benefits. Because you know in all likelihood there will be a vaccine next year, with vaccines from Johnson and Johnson and Moderna available, with both candidates going into Phase 3 clinical trials soon. Saying players should risk their lives so we can be entertained is simply not a sentiment I can agree with. Some of you are simply ignoring the risks which, while low, are not zero.
Oh, I have. I've also looked at the damage the shutdown has caused and the risk isn't anywhere near what the shutdown has and will cost us.
This is about WAY more than a football season. It just so happens that this is where this conversation is taking place. I guarantee that most people on here who want the season to happen are way more concerned about the bigger picture here.
yeah ok....you can post and repost all the info you want but these young men are actually safer with the University and the team following their COVID-19 protocols. So I respectfully disagree.
Yeah... there's just so much we don't know. Even though humanity marches on. Did you ever wear a mask before? No one in America did. And we all looked at the Asians who did it with a skeptical raised eyebrow. But get a bunch of Karens and "public health officials" to say mask and all the teachers' pets come out of the woodwork about how it will stop this virus.
It's stupidity and insanity masquerading as the moral good.
It's a virtue signal to console and control the sheep who have been panicked. These are the same idiots who think 30 million have died already.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ced-americans-30-million-died-of-coronavirus/
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Are the protocols that the players were in pre cancellation still in place - I thought they were and are going to continue through the fall
I will wear the mask, but I doubt its efficacy. I think it has more to do with the slogan than science.
More stupidity. What's the risk of playing in a football game vs going to a party vs going to class vs going to work vs going boating with your friends for an age group that is statistically safer than having covid than driving?
Im hoping they do and it would make the most sense. I have a feeling you are dead on on that.
Here we go again. What are the risks for everything we do in life and how do they compare? What are the risks for a college football player in general compared to C19? I am not playing there are zero risks of C19, there will be more obviously, this is pretty much uncharted waters. Have you ever looked up the efficacy of vaccines? They are never 100%, some are 70, some are 90, they vary. It seems you are saying things will be safer than safe with the vaccine which simply is not true IF we even get one. And the comment that players are playing for our entertainment and that somehow plays a part in their decision is wild. They are doing something they love to do, something they have worked much of their life to achieve and they still have goals to obtain. I sure don't want any kid playing for me, that seems rather selfish.
You didn't answer my earlier post so I assume you still think players are mindless robots programmed to do whatever they are told for our satisfaction. They are walking breathing adults who have access to a ton of information and protection, how about they have some say over their own lives. Without Big Brothers attention they will be making dozens of life altering decisions in their lives, without our help.
Masks prevent the big sneezes and water droplets but fine airosol? Not so much. I do think there is some value in them but not enough to get into fights about and what not.
https://nationalfile.com/video-doct...k-clouds-escape-through-sides-bottom-and-top/
And as far as a vaccine I am very leery of a new vaccine especially one treating an RNA virus which probably won't have the greatest efficiency by the time they release it as pointed out above. It's the same family as the common cold right? Going to have the same issues more or less?
I get the flu shot every year but feel that's well vetted and only tweaked and it has a sufficient track record/history behind it. I probably will wait as long as I can before I sign up for a covid vaccine.
I think deaths are down though and that it's getting milder.
https://nationalfile.com/video-doct...k-clouds-escape-through-sides-bottom-and-top/
And as far as a vaccine I am very leery of a new vaccine especially one treating an RNA virus which probably won't have the greatest efficiency by the time they release it as pointed out above. It's the same family as the common cold right? Going to have the same issues more or less?
I get the flu shot every year but feel that's well vetted and only tweaked and it has a sufficient track record/history behind it. I probably will wait as long as I can before I sign up for a covid vaccine.
I think deaths are down though and that it's getting milder.
Excellent post sir. So many folks now think only staying in their basement & wearing masks endlessly is the best & only way to enjoy life. Oh well, to each their own....
It’s only important to socially distance and to wear a mask because you don’t know where the people around you have been and if they have it. If you extremely limit that fear it’s less likely to matter and can be totally ok to live a normal life which includes playing football.
Universities could easily do a hell of a job to control the players and staffs environment. People may think that’s an unfair life for these people but obviously it would be their choice to life this way if playing football was that much of a high priority. And it’s very do-able way of life for any of these as we’ve seen kids their age in the military personal live it. But it would have to be their choice and I could really see a lot of young men buying into that to play football. But they weren’t even giving the chance to discuss that and that’s awful.
I mean it’s not like there’s a lot to do right now. You give guys a chance to focus on football and school in this shit storm of 2020, and I’m thinking it could have easily been a very positive outcome. And yeah theirs always going to be a chance COVID can sneak in, but that’s where trusts steps in. That’s why you only play conference and teams you trust to heavily monitor their players. B1G has top notch medical programs. With a good conference model i think they could have extremely limited exposer. That’s where leadership comes in. Your never going eliminate anything. But do we forget FDRs famous lines?
But we don’t have leadership like FDR anymore. Can say all you want about Warren, but he failed to have a plan and that’s sad. Yes it was hard to plan for this and I understand shell shock in March and April. But good leaders react quickly from that shock. all summer long we could have talked to our players, parents, coaches, and universities medical staff on what it was going to take to make this season work.
Northwestern and Michigan have top Ten medical programs. That’s the point of a conference right? To help eachother out. Or is it truly only a revenue stream? Did they ever ask how can it work? What sacrifices need to be made by players and are they willing to do it? What’s mom and dad think? What’s our scholars say? F*ck!!!
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The mere fact that you are even comparing it to the flu shows that you have absolutely no understanding on how this virus attacks each individual and continues to mutate. The flu never put my healthy daughter in the hospital and near death while moving through her body and attacking different organs almost the entire time. Body aches to the point of not being able to wear almost St s
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