Bye Bye Bookie?
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Do we even have a legit 3-4 NT on roster? We need one big enough and capable enough to force double teams..
As great as it would be to have him and the others in this class.. i will take a new and improved coaching and direction of the TEAM vs a few individuals... again would love them to be a part of the turnaround..but if not we need to replace them with those that want to buy in..
You shouldn't be, because it had to be done well before the Iowa game. So maybe they did it a few weeks early. Does it really matter in the end? Riley is going to be fired at the end of the year, and we needed to have a new AD working the back channels for our next coach right now. Not starting the search for a new head coach 2 weeks after the Iowa game, when a new AD is hired.
I don't have any problem whatsoever with the timing of the firing of SE. You had better prepare yourself for this recruiting class to fall apart, because that was a foregone conclusion long ago, when we got lit up by an average Oregon team.
Actually Barf and the rag wanted their bags packed before week one and haven't let up yet. Bookie is a man of his word and has said from day one he is N and only way it changes is if Riley and D Williams K Dub are gone not sure how much more he can do to beat that in people's head. Without those three things may change He spells it out simple for all to see. Again it would not be wise to mess with this class it's small but full of the type of talent this team needs to fill out the west part of the Defense and Wideout talent this team needs going forward. Cleaning house would set us back longer than needed . It can get real Ugly or not around here??
NU lost at home to NIU, gave up 42 in one half to a below average Oregon team, went down to a last possession against Ark St, and between Wisconsin and tOSU, the NU defense has been 0 for 11 in keeping a team out of the end zone over that span. To add to that, the offense has scored 24 points in their last two games.
The talent on the NU roster is not that bad. I would say it has already gotten ugly around here.
There's going to be more than that who stick around, unless the next coach doesn't really went them. There's going to be a few at most who leave on their own.
The Db's are completely lost out there. Bootle immediately gives away inside positioning of the receiver on a man blitz and a simple drag route goes for 30-40 yards. Lamar gives away the outside on running plays. The DB's, the corners especially are very poorly coached.
I'm not upset. I just think, from your posting history (...and that's a compliment), you can recognize that the two situations are different in important ways.
When you turn your HC into a lame duck by firing the AD in September you hasten the recruiting problems. That's common sense.
You continue to be too dumb to recognize that this isn't an excuse for Riley; rather, a consideration that is in the best interest of al parties. This includes the next HC who will be continue to work on roster and depth.
Early riser like me.
The two situations are different. You are correct. I guess I just disagree about how bad it was to fire Eichorst in September. Only time will tell. Hopefully, no matter what happens, we can put together a decent recruiting class. Hard to do with your coach viewed as a dead man walking.
Generally speaking, administration at any university should display strength until the very last moment. Bounds/Green failed here in that respect. We were not going to fire Riley in the middle of the season. It was never part of the plan. But they went ahead and axed SE in September, knowing it would be perceived as the stepping stone to firing Riley, and it turned him into a lame duck. Recruiting began to suffer right away because anyone with a brain presumed the obvious.
People say these kids were never coming anyway. I don't buy it. Not at all. And what if we would have beat Wisconsin? What if we run the table?
This discussion isn't about Riley. It's about our administration waiting for the optimal time to make a move. And it wasn't in September. The next coach is going to want/need more talent on the roster. And we are getting much less of it next year as a consequence of the timing of the AD decision.
Adults are talking here. Maybe sit this one out.
Good post. Well argued. I just have one further question/observation from the other side of the argument. Given how our season has gone, don't you think that even if we had not fired Eichorst that there would still be a lot of widespread fan unrest, strong agitation for Riley to be fired, and hence rampant speculation in the press about Riley's job status? I just don't think that there is any evidence that, had we not fired Eichorst, our recruiting situation would be that much better. Opposing coaches would engage in negative recruiting and would constantly be bringing Riley's job security into question.
Anyway... I have said all I am going to say on this topic. Have a good day!
For sure. But if your administration is showing solidarity with your HC it's nothing more than rumors you can combat.
We just have to hope that Frost's recent success can act as a springboard to salvage this class. And we have to hope he/staff learn how to sell Nebraska fast as we will have lots of ships in the next class; especially after transfers/attrition.
One thing is for certain. There are interesting days ahead.
I really hope we end the year on a strong note.
Gotta go feed some sheep. Some things are constant...
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But I thought Parrella was an ace recruiter, and he was going to make them "2% better everyday"
Part of that vision was creating a winning environment. Results on the field are disproving that.
Wow.......its no wonder I disagree with people on here if this seems like a logical post. If this season finishes like it has started we will not be going to a bowl game. Most of those recruits would have seen the writing on the wall. We would not be in a position to get a new coach in a timely manner if at all and could stand a chance of blowing two recruiting classes.
Personally I think the right coach will still have a better class than what MR can achieve.
I am not saying that wins and losses (as well as HOW you lose) are not important or part of the equation. They are. But I do think Bookie and others have been told by these coaches that this year is a transition year and may look ugly, but that the future is bright. They then articulate to the recruit their vision for that future and how they see that player contributing in an integral way to that success. So I think Bookie would stay with us despite the losses because he believes in Riley and his staff.
But Bookie is no fool. He can see, like all of us, that the odds are that these coaches are going to get fired. So he is now looking elsewhere.
Well if Bookie is no fool.....he is probably not believing your first part where the coaches told him this was a transition year and the future looks bright. I mean 99% of the general public see's it......why wouldn't the recruits?
Yes you do hasten the recruiting process.......but the end results will be the same.
I still think he will have a good chance to keep him if we keep Dante Williams and Tyjon Lindsey. He is related to both.
If the Prez and Chancellor decided to can Eichorst, announcing just after a humiliating loss was a botch if they were not intending on sending a FB related signal. They could have waited a week. They were sending a FB related signal.
We have a damned good freshman NT. He's gonna be a beast.
I'm not going to make a coaching decision based on one recruit. Not gonna worry about it. He looks like a great player but if Riley stays, Frost gets hired whatever. I think Frost could win him over but if not so be it. Not worth getting our panties in a wad.
Danniels or Thomas? I think they will move Thomas back out to DE when Danniels is read to roll.
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Did you not read the previous posts on what the recruits have said about Nebraska losing to Oregon, NIU, Wisconsin and OSU? Not saying losing doesn't have any effect, but the rumors of our coaches being fired are having a larger effect than our losses this season.
That's the trouble with Riley every year so far. Wins the offseason but can't get done what needs to be done in October and November to keep the kids wanting to put on that helmet with the N on the side.
So they're as in as you can be on marquee kids in July and August, but when the conference games get played, the big dogs eat while NU hopes for some scraps.
So they're as in as you can be on marquee kids in July and August, but when the conference games get played, the big dogs eat while NU hopes for some scraps.
Whomever is the next coach can definitely learn a few things how Riley and Co were able to get elite talent on campus...cant say they didnt work hard to prove that they can get the stars here...just need to get the talent to commit and coach them up
I would love to have coach williams retained for that reason alone... i think he is a dynamic recruiter and a more than decent position coach.. but his relationships on the west coast are unmatched... he would be about the only one i want to keep over. Plus he wasnt an original Riley guy but has a lot of ties
Riley has been solidly in 5th place in the Big Ten in recruiting over the last three years. He currently sits at 10th (but lot of time left).
Getting a few kids to look at you means you can put lipstick on the Husker pig but when they get up close their ain't much to look at with this staff.
