...might not have been that unanimous.
http://abc7chicago.com/sports/memo-...n-to-decline-expansion-was-unanimous/1561290/
http://abc7chicago.com/sports/memo-...n-to-decline-expansion-was-unanimous/1561290/
Big 12's Unanimous Decision to not expand...
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Can't image the B1G feeling like they have to write something as defensive as that. I hope the initial positions of the schools become known.
I'm guessing that UT, OU, and Ok St were against Houston. I remember a lot of Cowboy players (great receivers especially) from Houston.
I'm guessing that UT, OU, and Ok St were against Houston. I remember a lot of Cowboy players (great receivers especially) from Houston.
The fact that the memo was leaked tells you how dysfunctional that conference is. Releasing talking points and dos/donts, etc. is very standard to make sure there is a unifying message being delivered. Leaking a memo to instruct such behavior tells me it is exactly the opposite. As I predicted in another thread, this is the beginning of the end for the Big 12 and I find it shameful that they openly courted this open invitation only to change their mind.
In my opinion, the writing is on the wall for OU to head to the SEC, Texas to head to the PAC 12 and let the other chips fall where they may. They didn't want to have the mess of bringing in other schools before they abandoned ship. Pure speculation on my part.
In my opinion, the writing is on the wall for OU to head to the SEC, Texas to head to the PAC 12 and let the other chips fall where they may. They didn't want to have the mess of bringing in other schools before they abandoned ship. Pure speculation on my part.
"The Big 12 initially considered 19 schools and that list was trimmed to 11 -- Air Force, BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, Colorado State, UConn, Houston, Rice, South Florida, SMU and Tulane"
If that was their list, they did the right thing. Unlike the B1G who added Rutgers and Maryland, I think it's better not to expand at all rather than add more garbage to the pile.
If that was their list, they did the right thing. Unlike the B1G who added Rutgers and Maryland, I think it's better not to expand at all rather than add more garbage to the pile.
I would agree with Rutgers, but I'm ok with Maryland.
"Lie on behalf of the conference, so that people don't find out what kind of shit show we are really running here." Thank gawd we got out of that carnival of cluster$&#(.
Rough for the Big 12. A KC sportswriter (Sam Mellinger) tried to write that this is the best decision that this conference has ever made. WOW! How ignorant are these guys? KU & OU to the B1G ten west...flop Purdue back to the East and whalah...a great 16 team power conference in football & basketball that will be infinitely stable. Mark it.
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Wait, does this mean Nebraska isn't returning to the Big 12?
Maybe I'm biased living in Fort Collins but CSU seems like an ideal fit. They're competitive in football, above average in basketball, new on-campus stadium, AWESOME city, relatively close to the other schools. I know their attendance isn't great but I'd think that would change with the new stadium coming next year.
Iowa State AD: Without Texas and OU, we're the Mountain West.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...state-ad-blame-ut-ou-without-em-mountain-west
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...state-ad-blame-ut-ou-without-em-mountain-west
I don't think KU will leave without KSU to be honest... I have no proof of that being true but have heard in the past that they would want to stay together?
Lots of speculation that Kansas state gov requires them to stay together. Not 100% sure that is entirely accurate though. The Big 12 is a joke and I think KU will look to protect itself eventually. Other than semi-local opponents, they are missing out bigger rev, stability, and a conference more competitively suited to their prime sport (basketball).
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OU is not a serious research institution and thus is not Big 10 material. The Big 10 doesn't exist solely as a business partnership for college football programs to negotiate TV deals like the SEC.
Texas, however, is academically fit for the Big 10. OU more likely going to SEC.
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I live in KC and I am personal acquaintances with several of our legislators. I've never once heard that KU and KSU are connected at the hip, at least not recently. That said there has been zero discussion of it that I am aware of at this point so who really knows. There would certainly be some political fallout, but the fact is our budget situation is so dire at this point that keeping KU and KSU together is about the last thing on anyone's mind. IMO, if the BIG were to offer KU tomorrow, the state is really not in a position to negotiate. The situation becomes they allow KU to bolt which certainly sinks KSU as a big time program/university but it maintains a major conference school within the state and allows CIC money to flow into the state to augment KU Med which is one of the premier hospitals in the region. Or they disallow because of KSU at which point both schools fall into lesser conferences if the Big 12 fails apart, thus both Universities and the state as a whole suffer. IMO, the KS government is not exactly in a position where they can dictate, or even negotiate terms if a "take it or leave it offer" comes to KU. IIRC both KU and KSU are facing double digit percentage budget cuts next year. So call me crazy, but if the BIG were to come knocking on KU's door and tell the state that KU has access to billions of research dollars... they would be hard pressed to tie KU to KSU. Also IIRC from what I read recently, I believe KSU's enrollment continues to decrease while KU's is on the rise. If the BIG is considering expansion and KU is part of the equation, the time is now.
This is something that is said about everyone. A&M and Texas are a very good example. Everyone said that they cant split due to politics in the state but now they're separated from each other. Apparently Texas is stuck with everyone though, they're like that dog dragging pups around by the tit but I'm guessing Texas is stuck with them because they want that tit and not due to them being stuck with it.
The funny thing is that when (not if) the conference dissolves KSU and ISU will probably end up in the Mountain West. That wouldn't be all that bad for them.
"Psychologically Disadvantaged." I love that quote, I'm using that every time I reference the Big 12 from now on.
Any school currently a member of the BIG 12 that in the near future lands a guaranteed cushy landing spot say with the B1G, the $EC, the PAC12 and maybe even with the ACC drops the BIG 12 like yesterday's newspaper...money talks, BS walks and in this case the Big 12 is nothing but BS.
i would be surprised that any state will be willing to sink all they have because one in state school is sol. survival of the fittest.
ku and ou better hope the 4 major conferences elect to go to 16, but i'm thinking they stand pat at 14 at least until grant of rights come up for renewal and even then I think it will be a game of chicken b/t Delaney and SEC, because I think the SEC will think, 'hey we're the best in the nation w/o 16 teams!' adding 2 may be diminishing returns and competition that they really need...
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