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Considered one of the best conferences thus 2 teams got into the tournament but not really looking that great so far to be honest.

Mich loss to ACC (close)
OSU loss to ACC (dominated)
Husker loss to SEC (decisive)
Maryland loss to ACC (close)
Indiana loss to PAC12 (close)

Minnesota win vs Pac 12 (close)
Northwestern win vs ACC (close)

Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn St. yet to play and we need them all to win to make us 5-5.
 
Bowl games are a different animal. Clemson didn't look this good to me during the season. They should have lost to NC State and maybe even to a couple other average teams. They look unbelievable right now.
 
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At this point it`s like Bama and Clemson are playing for the crown and everyone else is in the NIT. They are head
and shoulders above the rest.
 
The OSU wouldn't have beaten the Huskies tonight either. They don't look like they belong. Now consider how far away the Huskers are from this stage. Sad to consider.
 
It will be interesting to see how Penn State does against USC. Penn State had a claim to be in the playoff over OSU.
And by season's end, USC was clearly the best team in the Pac-12. They just took too long to change QBs and get their offense on track. That should be a great game.
 
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Considered one of the best conferences thus 2 teams got into the tournament but not really looking that great so far to be honest.

Mich loss to ACC (close)
OSU loss to ACC (dominated)
Husker loss to SEC (decisive)
Maryland loss to ACC (close)
Indiana loss to PAC12 (close)

Minnesota win vs Pac 12 (close)
Northwestern win vs ACC (close)

Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn St. yet to play and we need them all to win to make us 5-5.

you also have to realize that the big has 1 team in the playoffs and 2 in NY6 bowls , which means that the rest of the big had to play up in their bowl games
 
you also have to realize that the big has 1 team in the playoffs and 2 in NY6 bowls , which means that the rest of the big had to play up in their bowl games

Same old regurgitated excuse year in and year out. News flash the SEC always does that.
 
Makes your conference look better and your wins vs conference opponents look better. Hell it even makes your losses not as bad.
 
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At this point it`s like Bama and Clemson are playing for the crown and everyone else is in the NIT. They are head
and shoulders above the rest.

You have your're opinion but the other New Year's 6 bowls are not NIT standard like in Basketball just because 2 of the bowls are only playoff bowls.

We played in a NIT bowl game I would agree
 
You have your're opinion but the other New Year's 6 bowls are not NIT standard like in Basketball just because 2 of the bowls are only playoff bowls.

We played in a NIT bowl game I would agree

I kind of see your point but who else out there is in their league? I was impressed by LSU destroying Louisville and Louisville dropped 60 plus in FSU. Right now, to me, it's those two and everyone else.
 
The Big 10 east is going to go winless unless Penn St pulls a big upset.
 
Why do people care about other teams in their conference?


My guess is you already know why but will still say why at the end of this paragraph. Everyone agrees that for about the last decade(ish) the SEC has ben the best conference. They care, a lot, easily more than other conferences. Have you ever heard a B1G team chant "B1G" at games? Or "Pac 12"? Me neither. You hear it from the SEC crowd all the time. They want their neighbors to be great, because it pushes them to be great and you get the benefit of the doubt when you lose a conference game and ESPN gives you verbal blow jobs all the time and it makes recruits want to play in your conference.
 
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Am I the only one who wonders if rating conferences based on bowl game results can often be misleading?
Clemson vs OSU is a case in point. Is Clemson really that much better than OSU or was it just "one of those games" where one team plays way above itself with all cylinders humming, while the other team comes out flat?
And really... Michigan losing by ONE point to FSU in FLORIDA is a sign of how overrated the B1G is?
Granted, the B1G has not done well in this year's bowls. I just am not so certain it means very much
 
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You have your're opinion but the other New Year's 6 bowls are not NIT standard like in Basketball just because 2 of the bowls are only playoff bowls.

We played in a NIT bowl game I would agree
I think a better comparison would be...
The Dance: CFP
NIT: Other New Year's Six
CBI: Power 5 bowls within 4 days of New Year's Day
CIT: Everything else
 
y'all got in a conference with name recognition galore. that's one reason i never questioned the decision.

but ohio had no business being in the cfp other than their name. we really need to get beyond this selection nonsense to placing the conference champs.

your big10 better hope wisky comes through for them. penn state will have their hands full and beyond in the rose. nevertheless, they should have been playing clemson. gbr/emaw.
 
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but ohio had no business being in the cfp other than their name. we really need to get beyond this selection nonsense to placing the conference champs.
Agree with this. The first year of the playoff when there was the Big 12 split title controversy and Ohio State got in, the committee really lucked out when Ohio State won the whole thing. But if you replace TCU or Baylor with Oklahoma or Texas, one of those latter two get in over Ohio State that year. Name cachet is certainly frustrating (obviously, Nebraska has been the beneficiary of this as well in the past).
 
Calm down everyone. Remember, our conference usually travels the furthest for bowl games. We are the ones who have to adjust to the weather.

How about having bowl games in Ann Arbor, Columbus, Happy Valley, Lincoln, etc. How would the "southern" teams fare if they had to travel up north?

The teams from the south have a HUGE advantage, in my opinion, over us. For the most part, their fan bases have much easier travel. Would Nebraska have played better if our game with Tennessee had been played in Kansas City or Denver? Just asking.
 
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Every year we have this same discussion and every year the answer is the same. The answer is you can't draw any conclusions about the strength of a conference based on the bowl games.

See you next year when we have this same conversation.
 
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Every year we have this same discussion and every year the answer is the same. The answer is you can't draw any conclusions about the strength of a conference based on the bowl games.

See you next year when we have this same conversation.
Exactly. See my comments above. Agree 100%
 
Calm down everyone. Remember, our conference usually travels the furthest for bowl games. We are the ones who have to adjust to the weather.

How about having bowl games in Ann Arbor, Columbus, Happy Valley, Lincoln, etc. How would the "southern" teams fare if they had to travel up north?

The teams from the south have a HUGE advantage, in my opinion, over us. For the most part, their fan bases have much easier travel. Would Nebraska have played better if our game with Tennessee had been played in Kansas City or Denver? Just asking.

Yea, that's it.... the old playing on the road excuse. Why don't you remind us where last night ass drubbing took place?
 
Am I the only one who wonders if rating conferences based on bowl game results can often be misleading?
Clemson vs OSU is a case in point. Is Clemson really that much better than OSU or was it just "one of those games" where one team plays way above itself with all cylinders humming, while the other team comes out flat?
And really... Michigan losing by ONE point to FSU in FLORIDA is a sign of how overrated the B1G is?
Granted, the B1G has not done well in this year's bowls. I just am not so certain in means very much

Win or lose by a little or a lot, a win is a win. I grow weary of the comparisons and playing the "what if" games of how close we came to playing in the CCG and if Tommy would have kept the ball and on and on. It is total revisionist history and gives people with those mindsets that ability to be an authority and keep some discussion of little value going.

Most on this board bash the SEC when they have the seemingly down year like this year with only one great team. Up and down that conference you see good teams, lets face it. How do you think we would do in that league?

As to the question, maybe the B1G was a bit over hyped but it was clear that it was not a good match up with Clemson last night and overwhelming physical play of Alabama was a sight to behold. Giving some ray of sunshine is how young many teams are in the B1G. tOSU is very young, Northwestern is young, Michigan State is young, Iowa returns a lot. I expect the B1G to be really difficult next year, much more so than this year. Will they be as good as Bama or LSU or Clemson or Florida State - I don't know, I can't know those teams.

The bigger question is where will Nebraska be? I have been saying all along that Nebraska could be better next year with a worse record. When I see physical progress on the field that will be a positive step, winning will come with that.
 
Win or lose by a little or a lot, a win is a win. I grow weary of the comparisons and playing the "what if" games of how close we came to playing in the CCG and if Tommy would have kept the ball and on and on. It is total revisionist history and gives people with those mindsets that ability to be an authority.

Most on this board bash the SEC when they have the seemingly down year like this year with only one great team. Up and down that conference you see good teams, lets face it.

As to the question, maybe the B1G was a bit over hyped but it was clear that it was not a good match up with Clemson last night and overwhelming physical play of Alabama was a sight to behold. Giving some ray of sunshine is how young many teams are in the B1G. tOSU is very young, Northwestern is young, Michigan State is young, Iowa returns a lot. I expect the B1G to be really difficult next year, much more so than this one. Will they be as good as bama or LSU or Clemson or Florida State - I don't know.

The bigger question is where will Nebraska be? I have been saying all along that Nebraska could be better next year with a worse record. When I see physical progress on the field that will be a positive step, winning will come with that.
Well said.
 
The bigger question is where will Nebraska be? I have been saying all along that Nebraska could be better next year with a worse record. When I see physical progress on the field that will be a positive step, winning will come with that.

Very possible. We're taking the long road to progress, and sometimes the long road has some bumps.
 
My guess is you already know why but will still say why at the end of this paragraph. Everyone agrees that for about the last decade(ish) the SEC has ben the best conference. They care, a lot, easily more than other conferences. Have you ever heard a B1G team chant "B1G" at games? Or "Pac 12"? Me neither. You hear it from the SEC crowd all the time. They want their neighbors to be great, because it pushes them to be great and you get the benefit of the doubt when you lose a conference game and ESPN gives you verbal blow jobs all the time and it makes recruits want to play in your conference.
I get it just refuse to buy in to that narrative. The SEC looks like fools riding the coattail of Alabama. Bama wins and the entire conference shares a mythical NC.. Lol
 
I get it just refuse to buy in to that narrative. The SEC looks like fools riding the coattail of Alabama. Bama wins and the entire conference shares a mythical NC.. Lol

Would you rather a team from the B1G win the national title, or a team from another conference, any conference?

Now ask yourself why that is.

SEC fans are no different than we are in that regard.
 
I get it just refuse to buy in to that narrative. The SEC looks like fools riding the coattail of Alabama. Bama wins and the entire conference shares a mythical NC.. Lol

Do you really think Tennessee fans enjoy watching Bama win NCs? I'll answer that for ya. NO. That's why Lyle Jones is on the hot seat after a 9-4 season. That's why Mike DeBord just left UT to coach at Indiana. Our fan base is sick and tired of losing to Bama, and if Lyle can't do it, we'll find another coach that will.
 
Clemson vs OSU is a case in point. Is Clemson really that much better than OSU or was it just "one of those games" where one team plays way above itself with all cylinders humming, while the other team comes out flat?

Substitute Nebraska vs OSU:

Is Ohio State really that much better than NU or was it just "one of those games" where one team plays way above itself with all cylinders humming, while the other team comes out flat?

Most Husker fans on here agree that OSU was just that much better than NU.

After that bowl performance by OSU, maybe OSU played way above itself with all cylinders humming against NU. Who knows.
 
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