excited to see all the loser fans from our loser conference peers get their panties in a bunch in this thread. a tradition unlike any other!
looks about right to me
looks about right to me
B1G Futures Are Out
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While I want to believe, what have we seen in the last 3-4 years that would make that even remotely likely.
I don't put much stock in ANY pre-season forecasts, never have. BUT it is kind of funny how the portal shakes things up even more these days and makes those forecasts even more of a pot shot.
14/1 is a pretty good price for a public team like ours. it's usually a little more than half that.
ohio state -200 still seems like a value to me.
Since the revival in 2018 we have grossly underperformed preseason predictions each and every year
and not by just a smidge but rather in spectacular fashion … expect it to continue
and not by just a smidge but rather in spectacular fashion … expect it to continue
this is not a prediction in any sense of the word
simply a gauge on public interest in B1G programs
sorry interest in yours is below interest in ours
What is this revival you speak of in 2018? Maybe the year you rediscovered your joy for buttseks?
The other joke is the reference of WE..
If you believe QB/ST play has cost Nebraska 10 PPG over the past 4 years, Nebraska would be.
2018 - 9-3 vs 4-8
2019 - 9-3 vs 5-7
2020 - 6-2 vs 3-5
2021 - 12-0 vs 3-9
Overall 36-8 vs 15-29
2018 - 9-3 vs 4-8
2019 - 9-3 vs 5-7
2020 - 6-2 vs 3-5
2021 - 12-0 vs 3-9
Overall 36-8 vs 15-29
coaching has cost us at least that many points per game - it is down right criminal to continually blame the kids for the failures of the adult “leading” this program
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This time we mean it. This is real.
No one from the West is gonna stay with OSU in the title game so I feel like those bets are wasted money. Going back a step to West winning odds is where the money can be made.
Fanduel:
Wisconsin +185
Nebraska +250
Purdue +370
Iowa +550
Minnesota +900
Illinois +3300
NW +7500
Purdue seems to have the easiest schedule with Penn State at home the first week of the season. Then at Maryland and at Indiana to finish the crossovers. They will have the best QB in the division.
Wisconsin is at OSU, at MSU, at Iowa, and at Nebraska. That’s tough. I’ll probably stay away from them preseason and hope once they lose to OSU, get better odds.
At Rutgers for both Iowa and Nebraska could play a role in the race. They are possibly a bowl team so not an easy road trip out east.
Minnesota is at MSU and at PSU on top of having Rutgers at home with a new OL and new bunch of defenders.
Two years ago I put $20 on NW to win the conference so that was a fun title game of hedging, but they have OSU and at PSU for crossovers. I’m not buying this year.
Fanduel:
Wisconsin +185
Nebraska +250
Purdue +370
Iowa +550
Minnesota +900
Illinois +3300
NW +7500
Purdue seems to have the easiest schedule with Penn State at home the first week of the season. Then at Maryland and at Indiana to finish the crossovers. They will have the best QB in the division.
Wisconsin is at OSU, at MSU, at Iowa, and at Nebraska. That’s tough. I’ll probably stay away from them preseason and hope once they lose to OSU, get better odds.
At Rutgers for both Iowa and Nebraska could play a role in the race. They are possibly a bowl team so not an easy road trip out east.
Minnesota is at MSU and at PSU on top of having Rutgers at home with a new OL and new bunch of defenders.
Two years ago I put $20 on NW to win the conference so that was a fun title game of hedging, but they have OSU and at PSU for crossovers. I’m not buying this year.
Just made the rounds and Caesers has some early lines and team wins out.
Iowa and Nebraska O/U 7.5 (slightly different juice between the two)
Wisconsin 9
Illinois 4.5
Minnesota And Purdue at 7
They have Nebraska -10.5 over NW
Iowa and Nebraska O/U 7.5 (slightly different juice between the two)
Wisconsin 9
Illinois 4.5
Minnesota And Purdue at 7
They have Nebraska -10.5 over NW
Statistically he is by far the best returning QB in the West. Second best in the conference. 71.6% completion percentage. 74.1% was the lowest the last 7 Big Ten games which included games against Wisconsin (not a lot of yards), Iowa, MSU.
Not sure what all they return but I doubt they suck.
completion percentage is not even close to the end-all stat by which quarterbacks are judged
No dog in this fight, I am a Husker fan we know what our former QB did or didn't do.
That said, kong, you downplayed his Stat and said it wasn't the end all. So tell us which stats support or don't support him?
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Minnesota fans are all kind of butthurt over this. Why the hell would they care so much about pre-season odds
EDIT: Our resident Iowa troll also seems bent out of shape (as usual).
EDIT: Our resident Iowa troll also seems bent out of shape (as usual).
Do any of our opponents get to correct their two biggest weaknesses, too?
I didn’t state that it was the end-all stat. I guess I’ll keep doing all the leg work. 371 passing yards per game the last 9. 25 TD’s and 7 INT during that stretch too. They went 6-3 during that stretch since that’s the stat that matters. (I’m not sure on how they did the QB situation the first three games but he had low passing attempts.)
look at this guy. he stinks!
also did that against very slow B1G defenses/average/bad B1G teams (yours & ours included) + basically playing 15 on 11 in his bowl game with the gifts the refs kept giving him.
being the statistical best returning quarterback (you're right) in the B1G west is equivalent to whichever 'in the land of the blind..' cliche you prefer
Casey Thompson is just behind him in average yards/attempt (IMO the most telling QB stat) having played in an infinitely more competitive league last year (Big12 >>>>>>> B1G west)
Rutgers is 200/1?
The oddsmakers obviously don’t appreciate how 37 straight swing passes can wear down opposing defenses.
The oddsmakers obviously don’t appreciate how 37 straight swing passes can wear down opposing defenses.
I guess I’ve never seen anyone try and say the Big 12 defenses are better than the Big Ten West, but their is a first for everything. Undoubtedly, Thompson’s best games were against Oklahoma (76), Texas Tech (86), and Kansas (126). Those are the total defense rankings of those teams.look at this guy. he stinks!
also did that against very slow B1G defenses/average/bad B1G teams (yours & ours included) + basically playing 15 on 11 in his bowl game with the gifts the refs kept giving him.
being the statistical best returning quarterback (you're right) in the B1G west is equivalent to whichever 'in the land of the blind..' cliche you prefer
Casey Thompson is just behind him in average yards/attempt (IMO the most telling QB stat) having played in an infinitely more competitive league last year (Big12 >>>>>>> B1G west)
TCU was ranked (116) and he had 6.45 Yards per attempt against them. KSU (29) was 7.4. OSU (5) was 6.6. For reference, his Y/A on the season was 8.1. O’Connell was at 8.4.
Another frame of reference is 11.4 Y/A against OU for Thompson and 11.56 against OU for Martinez.
That’s not to mention O’Connell doing his stats against Wisconsin and Minnesota who finished top 3 in the country. Iowa was (17), Nebraska (47).
Thompson could prove to be better but there isn’t a stat in the world that says O’Connell isn’t the best QB in the West and 2nd best in the entire conference.
the B1G defensive rankings you refer to were accomplished against B1G offenses, which cannot produce 2 better quarterbacks than that goofy purdue kid
your team is a great example of how a putrid, pathetic, unwatchable offense can bolster an opponent's defensive stats. there are a lot of those in the B1G west. it's all relative.
I understand that line of thinking.Which is why I put the Oklahoma comparison in there.
The problem with your Big Ten argument is that Oklahoma finished (20) in total offense. OSU was (1). Then you have Nebraska (20), Michigan (25), Maryland (32), Purdue (33); before you get to the next Big 12 offense which was TCU (36).
MSU (42), before you get to Texas (47) and ISU (49).
Minnesota played 4 of those Big Ten teams. Nebraska played 5 teams. Wisconsin played 4 top 50 offenses including ND (43).
Heck, Iowa played 7 of the top 50 total offenses. CSU (57), is bunched up with Okie State, Baylor, Texas Tech. I honestly didn’t expect to find these numbers to end up in the Big Tens favor.
Wisconsin (88), Minnesota (99), Illinois (112), NW (116), Iowa (121) obviously were hindered by playing such good defenses. 😉
Old School big ten fans can't see it. The Big Ten west is basically all the same team, which is why the "best" team is usually only favored by like 8 over the "worst" team and sometimes the "worst" team is even favored.
Nah, your team, Iowa, has vastly over preformed since 2018. Get lost Iowa trash.
he was using it for comparison of the big ten west, not all of cfb. His point is correct. tallest midget argument maybe but he’s right.look at this guy. he stinks!
also did that against very slow B1G defenses/average/bad B1G teams (yours & ours included) + basically playing 15 on 11 in his bowl game with the gifts the refs kept giving him.
being the statistical best returning quarterback (you're right) in the B1G west is equivalent to whichever 'in the land of the blind..' cliche you prefer
Casey Thompson is just behind him in average yards/attempt (IMO the most telling QB stat) having played in an infinitely more competitive league last year (Big12 >>>>>>> B1G west)
Doing solid legwork here. Good job. Purdue might have a shot.
Having said that, Iowa sucks.
They are starting to build serious depth. Losing Karlaftis sucks, but the DL is 2-3 deep and there are two top 250 DE's coming in. Having a great Dline coach helps. DB room is athletic and experienced. Offensively, WR room is talented as always. TE's are good. Sampson James is eligible and should help the run game. Can the oline be good enough? I suspect so. Some nice young players coming up. Less than 8 wins with this team and schedule would be highly disappointing.
Yeah...get ready to be really disappointed.
You’d think after watching Fatt “highly disappointing” Painter crap his britches on an annual basis you purdue fans would accept your highly disappointing fate
fool me once and all
