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An incredible era

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For those of us who were fortunate enough to be around most, if not all, of the 40 years that Nebraska had their greatest success, we realize now just how great Devaney and Osborne and their staffs were. I am including the first 4 years of Solich since some of his best players were recruited during Toms last years. And, to be fair, Frank did a good job until the talent well ran dry.

For a school like Nebraska, with it's very small population of football athletes within its borders, to achieve what it did is almost beyond belief. What we witnessed in those 40 years was two of college footballs greatest coaches. Let that sink in for a few moments, two of the games GREATEST coaches. More than anything, that's the difference between then and now.

Now, we all know that Devaney and Osborne had their moments when it looked as if they would be sent packing, but great coaches do great things, and they have the insight to make the necessary changes to get out of trouble and get even better. In the 40 years of success, Nebraska won 398 games, a little under half of all victories since 1890. That leaves 85 other years to compare against. Let that register for awhile.

Those years are now fading into history and they don't look like they are coming back over the horizon anytime soon. And it could be awhile, maybe a long while, before Nebraska even approaches that kind of greatness, even a few years of it, again. The landscape of college football, it is said, has changed much since Nebraska's last national title in 1997. But the biggest change is the most obvious change, there have been no great coaches since then at Nebraska, and as far as I can tell, there may not be ever again.

I don't pine for the days of Bo Pelini, he was what he was, a decent coach with a most bombastic personality that couldn't win many big games. He won a few, but too few to keep him around. Neither do I desire a return of Bill Callahan. I would welcome back a Frank Solich if he could somehow recruit a lot better, but that won't happen either. It leaves us to present day and Mike Riley. A good man over anything else, a decent coach, but probably not one to reach the pinnacle that so many of us fans desire. I will pull for him the remainder of his time at Nebraska and hope he has the insight to pull himself and the team back to competing and winning. He doesn't have to win a national title or even a Big Ten title in his time at UNL, but he needs to get razor close to the latter. I just don't know if there will be enough time for him to get there.

If there is a Devaney or Osborne somewhere in Nebraska's future, who knows when that person will arrive. Then again, circumstances, for whatever reason, might keep it from occurring. One thing I'm very sure of, it will take someone of their caliber to make Nebraska great again, and Mike Riley isn't the one.
 
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Good post Bug. I remember those years too. From the OU side. At least OU had the luck to get a third excellent coach after Bud and Barry. You guys are suffering as much as my Horn pals. Can't say too much about them. Scoreboard and all. But shutout by Iowa State? Huskers have yet to suffer that indignity.
 
For those of us who were fortunate enough to be around most, if not all, of the 40 years that Nebraska had their greatest success, we realize now just how great Devaney and Osborne and their staffs were. I am including the first 4 years of Solich since some of his best players were recruited during Toms last years. And, to be fair, Frank did a good job until the talent well ran dry.

For a school like Nebraska, with it's very small population of football athletes within its borders, to achieve what it did is almost beyond belief. What we witnessed in those 40 years was two of college footballs greatest coaches. Let that sink in for a few moments, two of the games GREATEST coaches. More than anything, that's the difference between then and now.

Now, we all know that Devaney and Osborne had their moments when it looked as if they would be sent packing, but great coaches do great things, and they have the insight to make the necessary changes to get out of trouble and get even better. In the 40 years of success, Nebraska won 398 games, a little under half of all victories since 1890. That leaves 85 other years to compare against. Let that register for awhile.

Those years are now fading into history and they don't look like they are coming back over the horizon anytime soon. And it could be awhile, maybe a long while, before Nebraska even approaches that kind of greatness, even a few years of it, again. The landscape of college football, it is said, has changed much since Nebraska's last national title in 1997. But the biggest change is the most obvious change, there have been no great coaches since then at Nebraska, and as far as I can tell, there may not be ever again.

I don't pine for the days of Bo Pelini, he was what he was, a decent coach with a most bombastic personality that couldn't win many big games. He won a few, but too few to keep him around. Neither do I desire a return of Bill Callahan. I would welcome back a Frank Solich if he could somehow recruit a lot better, but that won't happen either. It leaves us to present day and Mike Riley. A good man over anything else, a decent coach, but probably not one to reach the pinnacle that so many of us fans desire. I will pull for him the remainder of his time at Nebraska and hope he has the insight to pull himself and the team back to competing and winning. He doesn't have to win a national title or even a Big Ten title in his time at UNL, but he needs to get razor close to the latter. I just don't know if there will be enough time for him to get there.

If there is a Devaney or Osborne somewhere in Nebraska's future, who knows when that person will arrive. Then again, circumstances, for whatever reason, might keep it from occurring. One thing I'm very sure of, it will take someone of their caliber to make Nebraska great again, and Mike Riley isn't the one.
 
For those of us who were fortunate enough to be around most, if not all, of the 40 years that Nebraska had their greatest success, we realize now just how great Devaney and Osborne and their staffs were. I am including the first 4 years of Solich since some of his best players were recruited during Toms last years. And, to be fair, Frank did a good job until the talent well ran dry.

For a school like Nebraska, with it's very small population of football athletes within its borders, to achieve what it did is almost beyond belief. What we witnessed in those 40 years was two of college footballs greatest coaches. Let that sink in for a few moments, two of the games GREATEST coaches. More than anything, that's the difference between then and now.

Now, we all know that Devaney and Osborne had their moments when it looked as if they would be sent packing, but great coaches do great things, and they have the insight to make the necessary changes to get out of trouble and get even better. In the 40 years of success, Nebraska won 398 games, a little under half of all victories since 1890. That leaves 85 other years to compare against. Let that register for awhile.

Those years are now fading into history and they don't look like they are coming back over the horizon anytime soon. And it could be awhile, maybe a long while, before Nebraska even approaches that kind of greatness, even a few years of it, again. The landscape of college football, it is said, has changed much since Nebraska's last national title in 1997. But the biggest change is the most obvious change, there have been no great coaches since then at Nebraska, and as far as I can tell, there may not be ever again.

I don't pine for the days of Bo Pelini, he was what he was, a decent coach with a most bombastic personality that couldn't win many big games. He won a few, but too few to keep him around. Neither do I desire a return of Bill Callahan. I would welcome back a Frank Solich if he could somehow recruit a lot better, but that won't happen either. It leaves us to present day and Mike Riley. A good man over anything else, a decent coach, but probably not one to reach the pinnacle that so many of us fans desire. I will pull for him the remainder of his time at Nebraska and hope he has the insight to pull himself and the team back to competing and winning. He doesn't have to win a national title or even a Big Ten title in his time at UNL, but he needs to get razor close to the latter. I just don't know if there will be enough time for him to get there.

If there is a Devaney or Osborne somewhere in Nebraska's future, who knows when that person will arrive. Then again, circumstances, for whatever reason, might keep it from occurring. One thing I'm very sure of, it will take someone of their caliber to make Nebraska great again, and Mike Riley isn't the one.

It took TO 20 years to win a national title after inheriting a team that had won a national title.

In my own mind, when you hire a coach that is 62 and its been almost 20 years since you won a conference title, the immediate goal is a conference title before the guy moves on. Especially when you look at our roster situation as it stood when Pelini was fired.

TA was about to enter his Jr campaign with serious questions if he was a good enough QB to get where we wanted to go. New coach X (Riley hadn't been hired yet), then was going to have two years of a guy who was good enough, but ultimately a place holder for "his guy". In Riley's case "his guy" is POB. Freshman don't win championships. So you are talking about four years from when Pelini was fired to where POB steps on the field as a non-freshman looking to *start* a B1G title journey. Assuming all went well, POB would get a title in his Jr or Sr year, meaning Riley would be 67 ish before you had placed the first block on the road to national titles by winning a B1G.

Benning had said on the radio some weeks back, that NU's near/mid term goal shouldn't be mid 90's NU, it should be the 80's, when we could regularly compete for conference titles and start laying the trial and error foundation that ultimately led to the 90's. Going from NU in 2014 to NU in 1994 in one fell swoop is a bridge too far.
 
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Excellent OP. Sums up my thoughts and feelings well. Almost all of the competitive advantages we had during those years are gone. Now the only thing that can bring us back is a boffo coach--a true needle in a haystack genius. We don't have that coach now, and it will be hard to find him in the future.
 
For those of us who were fortunate enough to be around most, if not all, of the 40 years that Nebraska had their greatest success, we realize now just how great Devaney and Osborne and their staffs were. I am including the first 4 years of Solich since some of his best players were recruited during Toms last years. And, to be fair, Frank did a good job until the talent well ran dry.

For a school like Nebraska, with it's very small population of football athletes within its borders, to achieve what it did is almost beyond belief. What we witnessed in those 40 years was two of college footballs greatest coaches. Let that sink in for a few moments, two of the games GREATEST coaches. More than anything, that's the difference between then and now.

Now, we all know that Devaney and Osborne had their moments when it looked as if they would be sent packing, but great coaches do great things, and they have the insight to make the necessary changes to get out of trouble and get even better. In the 40 years of success, Nebraska won 398 games, a little under half of all victories since 1890. That leaves 85 other years to compare against. Let that register for awhile.

Those years are now fading into history and they don't look like they are coming back over the horizon anytime soon. And it could be awhile, maybe a long while, before Nebraska even approaches that kind of greatness, even a few years of it, again. The landscape of college football, it is said, has changed much since Nebraska's last national title in 1997. But the biggest change is the most obvious change, there have been no great coaches since then at Nebraska, and as far as I can tell, there may not be ever again.

I don't pine for the days of Bo Pelini, he was what he was, a decent coach with a most bombastic personality that couldn't win many big games. He won a few, but too few to keep him around. Neither do I desire a return of Bill Callahan. I would welcome back a Frank Solich if he could somehow recruit a lot better, but that won't happen either. It leaves us to present day and Mike Riley. A good man over anything else, a decent coach, but probably not one to reach the pinnacle that so many of us fans desire. I will pull for him the remainder of his time at Nebraska and hope he has the insight to pull himself and the team back to competing and winning. He doesn't have to win a national title or even a Big Ten title in his time at UNL, but he needs to get razor close to the latter. I just don't know if there will be enough time for him to get there.

If there is a Devaney or Osborne somewhere in Nebraska's future, who knows when that person will arrive. Then again, circumstances, for whatever reason, might keep it from occurring. One thing I'm very sure of, it will take someone of their caliber to make Nebraska great again, and Mike Riley isn't the one.

Nebraska has every right to be proud of what its program accomplished, but you'll have to face the fact that that train left the station 20 years ago. The factors that worked in Nebraska's favor are no longer there. The appeal for athletes is now with high profile program club that Nebraska does not belong. The SEC schools, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and you don't want to hear this, but the upper tier Big 12 schools.

Nebraska's venture into the B1G was exactly the opposite of what it needed if it wanted to continue to be recognized as a blue blood program.
 
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I love our history, but this is just a "pity me" thread. Husker fans got to stop placing all their self-worth in the football program. I'm still proud to be a Husker fan. Sure, it makes it easier when you are winning.

Losing also reminds us that we were once taught humility. It's how we should act as Nebraskans. Be proud of it. We're going to return to winning football. But how are we going to act in the meantime? Stop embarrassing yourself Husker Nation.
 
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Nebraska has every right to be proud of what its program accomplished, but you'll have to face the fact that that train left the station 20 years ago. The factors that worked in Nebraska's favor are no longer there. The appeal for athletes is now with high profile program club that Nebraska does not belong. The SEC schools, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and you don't want to hear this, but the upper tier Big 12 schools.

Nebraska's venture into the B1G was exactly the opposite of what it needed if it wanted to continue to be recognized as a blue blood program.

Curious, why do you entering the BIG had the opposite effect? As far I'm concerned all the Big 12 had going for it was Texas, Oklahoma, and KU basketball. No more A&M, Colorado, Missouri, or Nebraska.
 
Curious, why do you entering the BIG had the opposite effect? As far I'm concerned all the Big 12 had going for it was Texas, Oklahoma, and KU basketball. No more A&M, Colorado, Missouri, or Nebraska.

I think he might be referencing the fact that TCU and Baylor are pretty good at present. But, I'm not sure that those are "set in stone" changes. Its hard to see Baylor and TCU remaining relevant in the coming 50 years after their current hot shot coaches leave.
 
Assuming all went well, POB would get a title in his Jr or Sr year, meaning Riley would be 67 ish before you had placed the first block on the road to national titles by winning a B1G.

What you say here is basically best case scenario too...then about that time, he moves on and Nebraska has to start all over again...Part of the reason it was a head scratcher hire.

As I said, I think that is best case scenario.
 
What you say here is basically best case scenario too...then about that time, he moves on and Nebraska has to start all over again...Part of the reason it was a head scratcher hire.

As I said, I think that is best case scenario.

The only way I could make sense of it is at the conspiracy level...somewhere at the upper echelons of the UN administration, people want Frost to come home eventually. What good is a homegrown coaching legend, if he's just going to coach elsewhere for his whole career? In 2014, we're a little ahead of the development curve for young Frost, somewhere between 2019 and 2024 (when he presumably has used the 5-10 Riley years to establish himself further as a coordinator and then as a HC at a smaller school) places us right in the window of Riley retiring and Frost walking into a stable situation at NU.

And of course its plug and play. If you think Mike Riley is the guy for right now and he's going to give you 5-7 years and get you a B1G title, that still leaves you with an option to go find a guy other than Frost who is going to build on that and start making deep playoff runs.
 
The only way I could make sense of it is at the conspiracy level...somewhere at the upper echelons of the UN administration, people want Frost to come home eventually. What good is a homegrown coaching legend, if he's just going to coach elsewhere for his whole career? In 2014, we're a little ahead of the development curve for young Frost, somewhere between 2019 and 2024 (when he presumably has used the 5-10 Riley years to establish himself further as a coordinator and then as a HC at a smaller school) places us right in the window of Riley retiring and Frost walking into a stable situation at NU.

And of course its plug and play. If you think Mike Riley is the guy for right now and he's going to give you 5-7 years and get you a B1G title, that still leaves you with an option to go find a guy other than Frost who is going to build on that and start making deep playoff runs.

Well, and if for some reason Riley is doing really well, you may just see how long he goes. Mind you, this is all thought process in 2014, not Nov 2 2015.
 
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Keep in mind I'm not crazy. My little conspiracy makes a cute little story but the real answer is that age was not a special consideration and he was chosen as the right guy for the job.

Universities aren't making lifetime hires anymore. Some NU fans are clinging to the idea that the next right guy is going to be here 30 years like tom was but the numbers say no.

Richt stoops ferentz all elder statesman who have almost worn out their welcome despite great success after only fifteen years or so.
 
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