Did anyone see this guy?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...till-angry-racist-incident-saturday/93202148/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...till-angry-racist-incident-saturday/93202148/
Alvarez Addresses Racist Incident at NU-Badger Game
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Meh..he is a President...they do it to all of them or are we giving Obama special consideration cause he is Black? If that was Donald Trump, it would be on all the late night comedy shows
How is that treating him equally?
First off, no, "meh" is not the appropriate response to this. What is wrong with the world where it is acceptable to depict a President being killed?? This is what terrorists in the Middle East do.
Second, yes, the fact that he is black does work into this equation due to the historical reference of lynchings and hangings of black people.
If anyone defends this dumbass, I question your motives.
Second, yes, the fact that he is black does work into this equation due to the historical reference of lynchings and hangings of black people.
If anyone defends this dumbass, I question your motives.
Are you a communist or something? This is America. There is freedom of speech
I'm black ..so I have no motive ..sorry I don't need your pat on the head.
Secondly we don't have to question your motives....it's quite obvious your definition of freedom sucks.
President ain't nobody..,they can trash and lie to their own citizens, overseas, but I'm suppose to respect them..He is an ELECTED official ..He should be showing us respect...you need to read some history books and fast.
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If it was a black Republican ..you phonies wouldn't say jack.
If the Orange guy was the one being depicted in this manner, somehow I doubt there'd be much outrage.
Well, this got the day off to an interesting start....
Freedom of speech IS a valued and critical thing...having said that, freedom of speech does carry time honored responsibilities that we learned in third grade. And while I think ALL presidents/politicians are fair game, there ARE historical ramifications to lynching that elude white America...in fact, we are studying that right now.
So...have a good day....think about the things we do and say, and I'm pointing that at me...
Freedom of speech IS a valued and critical thing...having said that, freedom of speech does carry time honored responsibilities that we learned in third grade. And while I think ALL presidents/politicians are fair game, there ARE historical ramifications to lynching that elude white America...in fact, we are studying that right now.
So...have a good day....think about the things we do and say, and I'm pointing that at me...
Yep...but they see Obama as inferior to white Presidents, so he needs special treatment...Which is racist in itself.
The more we cling to what happen in the past the longer it drones on. Move forward people and it all gets better.
That picture shows a person wearing an Obama mask on the back of his head. Doesn't show what the big paper mask is on the front of his face. The sign hanging from his back starts off with "What difference at this point, etc...". The guy holding the noose has a paper mask on also, is it Trump? To me it looks more of a political statement in an election year stating there is no difference between Hillary(?) or Obama. If the mask is Hillary, is the noose and pinstripe suit meant to be for her or does Obama make a better headline. I think the perpetrators made an honest mistake and didn't think it through.
I want to see a picture of their fronts before I jump to conclusions.
That picture shows a person wearing an Obama mask on the back of his head. Doesn't show what the big paper mask is on the front of his face. The sign hanging from his back starts off with "What difference at this point, etc...". The guy holding the noose has a paper mask on also, is it Trump? To me it looks more of a political statement in an election year stating there is no difference between Hillary(?) or Obama. If the mask is Hillary, is the noose and pinstripe suit meant to be for her or does Obama make a better headline. I think the perpetrators made an honest mistake and didn't think it through.
I want to see a picture of their fronts before I jump to conclusions.
The only ramifications of lynchings is they are in the past....this trying to rectify something and to continue to apply it to today is harmful. It helps no one.
All it does is create more victims and division...white people did bad things we get it.
America only took 70 years to get rid of slavery.......We never look at it that way.....we have been improving not going backwards....just the people who want to manipulate the plight of black people keep it going.
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I never said he wasn't free to do so under law. But I do think it is horse shit to celebrate it. It's classless and if anyone would be proud of their kid doing that then they would be part of the problem.
Leave the imagery of hanging a President to the terrorists. Don't encourage that shit here.
Leave the imagery of hanging a President to the terrorists. Don't encourage that shit here.
For the record, please don't assume what I would or would not do based on the party affiliation of the person being depicted. I thought George W was an awful President, but I was raised to respect the office of the President and I would be equally disgusted if someone depicted the same against him or a black Republican (hypothetically).
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I think if you're spending money to attend a Saturday night college football game, between two top 10 teams, with the solitary goal of making a political statement, you're probably a giant loser.
What about the college athletes that are doing it and it's okay? Just happened at NU, are they losers? See how touchy we make everything.
That's a silly comparison. A player isnt stopping play in the middle of the 1st quarter to stage a sit in. He isn't removing His helmet and producing a noose or an Obama mask. His job is to play the football game. Taking issue with the national anthem prior to the game doesn't preclude him from playing. If you're running up and down the stadium steps with a president hanging in effigy, you're just seeking attention and distracting people from enjoying a football game.
That makes you a loser.
After reading a lot of your posts. I doubt you're black at this point, which might seem petty of me, but your ignorance is staggering. I don't hate anybody today for the plights of the past, but for you to continue to dismiss oppression and it's effects probably makes you the most naive black man to ever walk the earth.
I suggest you make a trip to D.C. to visit the National Museum of African American History and Culture, but in your world the museum has no place because it reminds of the past, holds black people back, etc. Actually it's an educational tool, utilize it.
As far as the effigy, as you see I don't hide behind an avatar. I'm raising three black boys and they don't need to witness or be subjected to that shit PERIOD.
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I'll say, I don't find it racist in itself, but it's in poor taste and shows how our country lacks respect anymore on almost everything.
I'll say, I don't find it racist in itself, but it's in poor taste and shows how our country lacks respect anymore on almost everything.
I've read a number of his posts too. Here's how I see it. Jeans is taking exception to the hypersensitivity and uber P.C. world which almost always plays the race card, regardless of the merits of any given situation. I suspect Jeans sees such a reaction and treatment as counter-productive and, on some level, insulting and demeaning. Constantly ramming the narrative down the country's throat that "you're getting screwed if you're a minority" makes things worse, not better. Nobody should forget the past; I don't think he literally meant that what has happened isn't important, but rather, to keep grinding and look ahead. Just my observations - Jeans, correct me if I'm wrong.
So you're saying after images of black men being literally hung during my parents' lifetime, don't get upset when some idiot mocks it. The kids didn't do anything wrong, but I and others are in the wrong to get upset? I know you understand the offensiveness, but is this really being uber PC? Would you turn a blind eye if that occurred in Memorial? Here's a thought for Jeans and others that take offense to the ultra PC - don't invoke images of the past if you want to move on from the past. Is that a practical mindset?
Well sh!t
I was going to go to the next game dressed as Harvey Perlman in a gas chamber. But im sure everyone would get all "uber PC" and be offended by it. No fun.
I was going to go to the next game dressed as Harvey Perlman in a gas chamber. But im sure everyone would get all "uber PC" and be offended by it. No fun.
I'm not sure what you are getting at; I didn't suggest that someone shouldn't be bothered by it - you acknowledge that I understand the offensiveness of it. I think his issue was with the possible perceived outrage of this due solely to the race of the president, rather than for any other reason. Has Jeans invoked images of the past? Do those who take offense to the ultra PC invoke images of the past? Are you assuming the kids that did that are ultra PC? I'm not tracking.
F You racist POS ...I can think how I please. You don't own or control how black people think...some of us don't think we are inferior to white people....some of use our plight through history as a badge of courage and inspiration . ..it's why I vote always, it's why I went to college these are things my ancestors couldn't do.
Sorry I'm not acting like I have been oppressed....my ancestors did that... I have never had to experience that because of the sacrifices they made for me...I am not inferior to white people and never will be.
Exactly. The imagery of hanging a black man in the US, and the hate and racism that goes along with it, should be similarly unacceptable to a Nazi swastika stamped on the chest of a doll dressed up in traditional Jewish attire, or something the of the sort. Given this country's history, calling negative responses to what happened at Camp Randall "hypersensitivity" is extremely careless and ignorant. It doesn't take a genius to understand that. Living without regard for the past and the atrocities that occurred in this country is ridiculously naive/stupid.
So what are you doing to help black people because of the past that they can't do themselves...not a damn thing.
What is slavery coming back..Jim Crow......please tell me how conditioning black people of their inferiority of white people is helpful.
No one is arguing ithat what he did was ok...........Everybody is not triggered.
Hell the fact you are white should be enough reason to hate all of you...I'm pretty sure it was white people who were doing the hanging...so none of you should get a free pass...gmafb.
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We already got into this in another post, where I shared what I actually am doing in the city in which I live to try to help, but this isn't about that. let's focus on your ridiculously stupid statement instead of trying to deflect to other people. Own your idiocy.
I think I've explained it, and what I was saying was my understanding based upon a culmination of posts, not just on this specific OP, but on others as well. I don't think people are hypersensitive if they are bothered by an effigy of the president with a noose around his neck. I don't condone it and I had a negative reaction to it when I saw it. I understand exactly why people have a negative reaction to it. I also understand exactly where Jeans is coming from, who I believe, also didn't care for it. Enjoy your day.
Only thing that offends me are whites who apply behavior to color...,they are racist POS.....Regardless what you claim you are doing in the inner city.
I stand by my statement....it doesn't offend me....doesn't mean the guy isn't an idiot.....I'm just not sensitive to idiots.
Black people have to help themselves..,your help is useless unless your telling them that.
My response is regarding your post that I quote below.
"Meh..he is a President...they do it to all of them or are we giving Obama special consideration cause he is Black? If that was Donald Trump, it would be on all the late night comedy shows
How is that treating him equally?"
Whether or not you are offended does not matter to me. You don't have to be offended to say, "that's not right." You clearly do not think that, because of our country's history, the depiction of hanging a black person is completely out of line. I'm not getting into where you want to deflect this. If you can't understand the difference between depicting a black man being hung vs a white man being hung, and the hate and racism that is involved, then your "colorblindness" is serving as a detriment. Cultural sensitivity is a positive thing, not a negative. Being sensitive to history and culture and choosing to "not go there" communicates to those it would offend that we care about them enough to not insult them even though it may not be insulting to you. And understanding that racism is a huge issue for many people in our country (apparently, it isn't for you, and that's fine) and choosing to be sensitive towards that will only help bring people together.How is that treating him equally?"
LOL at you. I'm a racist POS... OK. You're an embarrassment. Don't hate your skin, embrace it. Also, coming at me like that, I know for sure you're not black. Makes you pretty weird.
Wow.....you sound more racist every post....your such a dumbass you don't even know it....lol
Tell us what a black person would say....Apparently you have been studying from the Black Encyclopedia.
.Lmao simpleton.
Do you even know the definition of racism? Because if I sound more racist with every post please point out this racism.
Read your words, WTH is the Black Encyclopedia, and what black man would use that as a demeaning reference? That's probably more racist than anything you've labeled me as typing being racist.
Want to come clean with all that I'm black proclamation or continue to be weird?
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