7 Most Indispensable Players This Season & More

[maplesyrup95]

Who are your 7 most indispensable players this season? I tend to value experience and proven success against opponents, so here are my Top 7:

1. Stanley Morgan
2. Nick Gates
3. DPE
4. Tre Bryant
5. Chris Weber
6. Mick Stoltenberg (would have been Chris Jones)
7. Aaron Williams/Josh Kalu (toss-up)

I have no idea how Tanner Lee fits into this since I have no idea how far he's come since Tulane, so here are my 7 Sleeper Picks for who could become most indispensable:

1. Luke Gifford
2. Tanner Lee
3. Tyler Hoppes
4. Lamar Jackson
5. Tyjon Lindsey
6. John Raridon
7. Deontre Thomas

 

[scarletred]

Have to throw any of the Davis twins in the mix too.

 

[HBK4life]

Drew Brown.

 

[suhnami]

1. Tanner Lee
2. Tanner Lee
3. Tanner Lee
4. Tanner Lee
5. Tanner Lee
6. Tanner Lee
7. Tanner Lee

Without great play from him I'm afraid it'll be a very long season. These coaches have not impressed with the running game.

 

[c3ntral08]

1. Tanner Lee
2. Tanner Lee
3. Tanner Lee
4. Tanner Lee
5. Tanner Lee
6. Tanner Lee
7. Tanner Lee

Without great play from him I'm afraid it'll be a very long season. These coaches have not impressed with the running game.

This. Tanner is #1 and it's not close. He stays healthy and the West is ours. Should have won the West last year with Tommy and Lee is 10x the QB.

 

[spinner4]

Who are your 7 most indispensable players this season? I tend to value experience and proven success against opponents, so here are my Top 7:

1. Stanley Morgan
2. Nick Gates
3. DPE
4. Tre Bryant
5. Chris Weber
6. Mick Stoltenberg (would have been Chris Jones)
7. Aaron Williams/Josh Kalu (toss-up)

I have no idea how Tanner Lee fits into this since I have no idea how far he's come since Tulane, so here are my 7 Sleeper Picks for who could become most indispensable:

1. Luke Gifford
2. Tanner Lee
3. Tyler Hoppes
4. Lamar Jackson
5. Tyjon Lindsey
6. John Raridon
7. Deontre Thomas

I like your picks. I'd probably take Raridon off the list. He still needs more time in the weight room and just is not physically ready from all I have herd. My Sleeper that no one is talking about is David Engelhaupt. He's at a spot that is really wide open right now and he's physically ready. Question I have with him, is he mentally ready. We saw some easy early drops in the Spring game and I write those up to jitters. However when he seemed to relax a bit we saw him getting open and making catches against the first team D. He's not really on many peoples radar right now but I think at the end of the season he will be

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

My list:

Who are your 7 most indispensable players this season? I tend to value experience and proven success against opponents, so here are my Top 7:

1. Stanley Morgan
2. Nick Gates
3. DPE
4. Tre Bryant
5. Chris Weber
6. Mick Stoltenberg (would have been Chris Jones)
7. Aaron Williams/Josh Kalu (toss-up)

I have no idea how Tanner Lee fits into this since I have no idea how far he's come since Tulane, so here are my 7 Sleeper Picks for who could become most indispensable:

1. Luke Gifford
2. Tanner Lee
3. Tyler Hoppes
4. Lamar Jackson
5. Tyjon Lindsey
6. John Raridon
7. Deontre Thomas

I think with Jones down, it bumps Jackson up on the list quite a bit. Probably Kalu as well.

 

[maplesyrup95]

This. Tanner is #1 and it's not close. He stays healthy and the West is ours. Should have won the West last year with Tommy and Lee is 10x the QB.

I agree that Tanner should probably be in the Top 7 indispensable but there were just a couple unknowns for me. I think he has tremendous potential from what we've been hearing and from a little of what we saw in the spring game. But, I have to disagree on it being "not close." How do we know he is 10x the quarterback than TA? We don't know that entirely. Better passer? Yes. But the West is not "ours" simply if Tanner is as good as advertised. Tanner Lee is not going to be able to win the West on his own. We're going to need a defense that doesn't give up 140 points total to 3 teams.

 

[maplesyrup95]

I like your picks. I'd probably take Raridon off the list. He still needs more time in the weight room and just is not physically ready from all I have herd. My Sleeper that no one is talking about is David Engelhaupt. He's at a spot that is really wide open right now and he's physically ready. Question I have with him, is he mentally ready. We saw some easy early drops in the Spring game and I write those up to jitters. However when he seemed to relax a bit we saw him getting open and making catches against the first team D. He's not really on many peoples radar right now but I think at the end of the season he will be

I like that pick. I hope you're right because he's got that "Nebraska" grit in him that out-of-state players don't have. Two players I keep forgetting are JD Spielman and Wyatt Mazour. I think they are both going to be studs.

 

[percyland]

This. Tanner is #1 and it's not close. He stays healthy and the West is ours. Should have won the West last year with Tommy and Lee is 10x the QB.

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

The fact that the number 3 guy on the list played 2 seasons at Nebraska and the number 4 guy was full time starter for 1 year. Says all you need to know about that list.

Taylor Martinez is number 2 with 7258 yards over 4 years and Joe Ganz had 3568 in one year also says a ton.

Ganz single season in 2008 was more than Frazier, Gill and Ferragamo had in their Husker careers.

It's like Craig Biggio and 3000 hits. If you play for 25 years, your bound to get there.

 

[c3ntral08]

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

Lol stats. I watched just about every game Lee played at Tulane and watched every game TA played and Lee is miles better. Tommy played his heart out every weekend for the N, no one is denying that. But when it came down to talent and decision making, he was awful.

 

[percyland]

The fact that the number 3 guy on the list played 2 seasons at Nebraska and the number 4 guy was full time starter for 1 year. Says all you need to know about that list.

Taylor Martinez is number 2 with 7258 yards over 4 years and Joe Ganz had 3568 in one year also says a ton.

Ganz single season in 2008 was more than Frazier, Gill and Ferragamo had in their Husker careers.

It's like Craig Biggio and 3000 hits. If you play for 25 years, your bound to get there.

Ahh so Tommy has been one of the few to start a lot of years while at Nebraska.

Again, under appreciated.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Ahh so Tommy has been one of the few to start a lot of years while at Nebraska.

Again, under appreciated.

You really need a Nebraska history lesson. His RS Fr year split time with a walkon. The rest of his career, primary back up was also a walkon. Not sure it's under appreciated or under challenged.

 

[percyland]

Lol stats. I watched just about every game Lee played at Tulane and watched every game TA played and Lee is miles better. Tommy played his heart out every weekend for the N, no one is denying that. But when it came down to talent and decision making, he was awful.

Yes stats. Nebraska giving up 24 points a game the past 2 years seems to be the bigger problem.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Yes stats. Nebraska giving up 24 points a game the past 2 years seems to be the bigger problem.

What does that have to do with the number of passing yards? The poor defense probably aided in him getting even more yards playing keep up.

 

[percyland]

What does that have to do with the number of passing yards? The poor defense probably aided in him getting even more yards playing keep up.

If the defense gives up 24 a game Tanner Lee isn't going to do much better than a 8-4 record either.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

If the defense gives up 24 a game Tanner Lee isn't going to do much better than a 8-4 record either.

Uhm again what does that have to do with passing yardage record?

 

[percyland]

Uhm again what does that have to do with passing yardage record?

You were saying Tommy is bad at QB. I say he was is not bad because he holds most of Nebraskas passing records. I assume you think he's bad because he won around 8 games a year, if he wins 11 games a year and holds all the records he'd be considered great. But I say its hard to be an elite team overall by giving up 24 points a game. And even the savior from the south Tanner Lee won't burst you back to the Big Ten Championship by giving up that many points.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You were saying Tommy is bad at QB. I say he was is not bad because he holds most of Nebraskas passing records. I assume you think he's bad because he won around 8 games a year, if he wins 11 games a year and holds all the records he'd be considered great. But I say its hard to be an elite team overall by giving up 24 points a game. And even the savior from the south Tanner Lee won't burst you back to the Big Ten Championship by giving up that many points.

Nope I'm pretty sure I said he has the records because he was a full time starter for 3 1/2 years and the records were more a byproduct of longevity than Armstrong's proficiency and prowess as a passing QB.

Edit- Also stated he was largely unchallenged for the starting QB position.


Never once said he was a bad QB. I have said he isn't a very good QB for a pro style offense. The rest is you being a troll and falsely representing what I posted.

Edit 2 - Nebraska gave up 27 ppg in 2012. Their last trip to the B1G title game. What else you got?

 

[jflores]

I think number 1 has to be Tanner Lee, but number 2 has to be Stolt. We went back and forth all winter over whether we'd actually have a NT to play Diaco's defense. No disrespect to Jones who is a good corner, but if you don't have a NT in a 3-4, you don't have a defense.

Number 3 probably has to be a tie between the LT and whoever is going to play the "flex" OLB position in space. You know, the miracle athlete that has to be able to cover like a corner, rush the passer, and hold his own in the run game.

 

[inWV]

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

Taylor Martinez

 

[jflores]

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

Lee is a better QB. TA has a bunch of stats he racked up as an athlete on a bunch of decent NU teams.

There's been more interest in Lee from the League and he hasn't done anything but play a few snaps on the camp circuit. TA went undrafted and was eventually let go by the Vikes.

I can see why Iowa would be huge TA fans. Without TA's limited skill set, we might have the ability to penalize you for a vanilla defensive gameplan that basically forces TA to throw without having to worry about much else.

 

[inWV]

Lee is a better QB. TA has a bunch of stats he racked up as an athlete on a bunch of decent NU teams.

There's been more interest in Lee from the League and he hasn't done anything but play a few snaps on the camp circuit. TA went undrafted and was eventually let go by the Vikes.

I can see why Iowa would be huge TA fans. Without TA's limited skill set, we might have the ability to penalize you for a vanilla defensive gameplan that basically forces TA to throw without having to worry about much else.

Interesting point re Iowa. The Hawkeyes were more than solid enough to make Tommy one dimensional. In fairness, he was essentially one legged in 16. But forcing them to play the pass will help our D get some more points on the board.

 

[jflores]

Interesting point re Iowa. The Hawkeyes were more than solid enough to make Tommy one dimensional. In fairness, he was essentially one legged in 16. But forcing them to play the pass will help our D get some more points on the board.

I'm not nearly as hard on the staff about Iowa as is a portion of the board. The team both years generally a train wreck by that point in the season.

But TA doesn't have the skillset to take Ferentz out of the Ferentz ball he wants to play. And you aren't going to win Ferentz ball chucking up INTs and with a barely function OL.

 

[percyland]

Lee is a better QB. TA has a bunch of stats he racked up as an athlete on a bunch of decent NU teams.

There's been more interest in Lee from the League and he hasn't done anything but play a few snaps on the camp circuit. TA went undrafted and was eventually let go by the Vikes.

I can see why Iowa would be huge TA fans. Without TA's limited skill set, we might have the ability to penalize you for a vanilla defensive gameplan that basically forces TA to throw without having to worry about much else.

I wouldn't want TA for Iowa's system, but the amount of abuse he takes on here is staggering. And I think it's a little premature to say Lee is a better QB. The guy hasn't even taken a snap yet for Nebraska. He has played against other big time D1 teams, but as said before on here they were not good games for him.

Running QBs are what scare me with Iowa's defense. Their type of defense matches up well against other pro-style offensives which is why they can play with and beat the Wisconsins and Michigan last year. Having a QB under center trying to run the ball and have a pro-formation out there works in Iowa's favor.

 

[jflores]

I wouldn't want TA for Iowa's system, but the amount of abuse he takes on here is staggering. And I think it's a little premature to say Lee is a better QB. The guy hasn't even taken a snap yet for Nebraska. He has played against other big time D1 teams, but as said before on here they were not good games for him.

Running QBs are what scare me with Iowa's defense. Their type of defense matches up well against other pro-style offensives which is why they can play with and beat the Wisconsins and Michigan last year. Having a QB under center trying to run the ball and have a pro-formation out there works in Iowa's favor.

Normally I'd agree with your assessment, Ferentz doesn't do well against the Indiana's and NWU's of the world.

But NU wasn't going to run TA around like a Randle El with TA on a gimped leg and no OL.

Effectively all the Hawks had to do was stack the box and collect their winnings.

 

[percyland]

Normally I'd agree with your assessment, Ferentz doesn't do well against the Indiana's and NWU's of the world.

But NU wasn't going to run TA around like a Randle El with TA on a gimped leg and no OL.

Effectively all the Hawks had to do was stack the box and collect their winnings.

Iowa shut down Nebraska because of TA?

It also helps they had a Thorpe winner in the secondary and a Butkus finalist at Linebacker.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Hopeless.

 

[jflores]

Iowa shut down Nebraska because of TA?

It also helps they had a Thorpe winner in the secondary and a Butkus finalist at Linebacker.

Pick your poison. The QB could barely walk and isn't a great passer when healthy, and the OL was a mash unit. What would you like to blame, zero run game, or zero pass game?

Iowa lost 5 games last year, a couple of award winners could and were dealt with.

 

[jflores]

This. Tanner is #1 and it's not close. He stays healthy and the West is ours. Should have won the West last year with Tommy and Lee is 10x the QB.

This. For all the faults TA had, and the bum injury at the end of the year, if he could have found about 20 yards at Wisconsin in OT, we'd have won the West. Iowa butt whipping included.

 

[maplesyrup95]

This. For all the faults TA had, and the bum injury at the end of the year, if he could have found about 20 yards at Wisconsin in OT, we'd have won the West. Iowa butt whipping included.

Piggybacking off of your comment, I don't play the 'what if' game very often, but what if we had won that game in OT? We would have had the West on lock and would have had a much more favorable matchup playing Penn State in the Big Ten Championship. Who knows how we would have performed. It's pretty crazy that a division can come down to an Overtime drive. Let's hope the coaches have done their job so we can beat those stinking badgers this year in Lincoln.

 

[jlb321]

Piggybacking off of your comment, I don't play the 'what if' game very often, but what if we had won that game in OT? We would have had the West on lock and would have had a much more favorable matchup playing Penn State in the Big Ten Championship. Who knows how we would have performed. It's pretty crazy that a division can come down to an Overtime drive. Let's hope the coaches have done their job so we can beat those stinking badgers this year in Lincoln.

What if our senior QB in his 4th year as a starter hadn't crapped the bed in a big game ... again

12-31 153 yds. 0 TDs 2 INTS. QBR 15.9 @ Wisconsin

All TA had to be was a tiny bit better than absolutely terrible in that game to get a W and he couldn't deliver

 

[dockentwo]

What if our senior QB in his 4th year as a starter hadn't crapped the bed in a big game ... again

12-31 153 yds. 0 TDs 2 INTS. QBR 15.9

All TA had to be was a tiny bit better than absolutely terrible in that game to get a W and he couldn't deliver

Nicely done : game , set, match. And it was a better game than he played the year before against them ? Wow.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Tommy is Nebraskas all time leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Lee throws 1000 interceptions and wins half his games at Tulane and he is 10x better than Tommy.

Has there ever been a more under appreciated player in Nebraska history other than Tommy Armstrong?

Jamal lord

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

Jamal lord

Funny, I thought of that name when I read that comment too. Lord didn't have much to work with. A better offensive line than TA, but he didn't have much help at the skill positions. Not to mention, he wasn't recruited to throw the ball like TA was, at least to a point.

 

[kakdawg]

Nope I'm pretty sure I said he has the records because he was a full time starter for 3 1/2 years and the records were more a byproduct of longevity than Armstrong's proficiency and prowess as a passing QB.

Edit- Also stated he was largely unchallenged for the starting QB position.


Never once said he was a bad QB. I have said he isn't a very good QB for a pro style offense. The rest is you being a troll and falsely representing what I posted.

Edit 2 - Nebraska gave up 27 ppg in 2012. Their last trip to the B1G title game. What else you got?

I usually dont jump in when someone is getting beatdown....BUT in this case i came to ask a serious question. Do you think the guy you are responding to is really serious? He CANT be serious..Can he??


holla

 

[headcard]

Taylor Martinez

This

 

[headcard]

The fact that the number 3 guy on the list played 2 seasons at Nebraska and the number 4 guy was full time starter for 1 year. Says all you need to know about that list.

Taylor Martinez is number 2 with 7258 yards over 4 years and Joe Ganz had 3568 in one year also says a ton.

Ganz single season in 2008 was more than Frazier, Gill and Ferragamo had in their Husker careers.

It's like Craig Biggio and 3000 hits. If you play for 25 years, your bound to get there.

Except TM didn't really play his Sr. year, so he's more of a 3 year starter. Still the point remains, TA's numbers were a result of being a 4-year starter due to poor QB recruiting and a lack of competition.