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Tom also highly recommended Pedie……
T.O. was probably pushimg Pedie do to him hiring a young Pedie years earlier to be his in-house recruiting director before most people realized there was such a position. I think Pedie's biggest mistake was listening totally to Dave Wannstedt who instructed Pedie to go to Fayetteville, Arkansas and not leave until he hired Houston Nutt. Then Frank Broyles made Pedie look like a fool to the national media.
 
I think this could be true, but I’m worried about the interior defensive line next year. Could be a liability if we can’t address it with the portal. Also have some things to get sorted out in the secondary. McCollough is a HUGE get and will help, but we need another CB with some size. Maybe another safety too.
CB from Idaho? Isn't he 6'?
 
Don't think I agree with any of those. Riley, Frost, and Callahan were far worse and produced losing seasons.

Oh, those are on the list as well. I didn't say Solich, Bo and moving to the B1G were the only mistakes. I said they were among them. The point was that 3 of the big mistakes, actually more if we're including Pederson (so, 4 out of the 6 big mistakes), were all on TO. Great head coach. Horrible AD. The best and worst thing that ever happened to Nebraska football.

Therefor, THEE biggest mistake was letting TO hang around the program too long and foolishly thinking that just because he was one of the greatest head football coaches of all time, that somehow qualified him to also be a good Athletic Director. Michael Jordan was the best basketball player of all time too, but that didn't make him a good executive for the Wizards.

Solich - TO
Pederson - TO (sort of)
Callahan
Bo - TO
B1G - TO
Riley

Side note - I actually don't consider Frost among them. Obviously didn't work out, but it was the no brainer hire that 10 out of 10 programs would have made. Easy for hindsight to be 20/20 on it now, but he was the hot commodity as the next up and coming head coach and nobody can honestly say they could question that hire at the time it happened. He checked all the boxes and then some. In fact, I'm not sure that a lot of Frost's failures weren't due to meddling from the old TO regime. But that's a different topic.
 
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Oh, those are on the list as well. I didn't say Solich, Bo and moving to the B1G were the only mistakes. I said they were among them. The point was that 3 of the big mistakes, actually more if we're including Pederson (so, 4 out of the 6 big mistakes), were all on TO. Great head coach. Horrible AD. The best and worst thing that ever happened to Nebraska football.

Therefor, THEE biggest mistake was letting TO hang around the program too long and foolishly thinking that just because he was one of the greatest head football coaches of all time, that somehow qualified him to also be a good Athletic Director. Michael Jordan was the best basketball player of all time too, but that didn't make him a good executive for the Wizards.

Solich - TO
Pederson - TO (sort of)
Callahan
Bo - TO
B1G - TO
Riley

Side note - I actually don't consider Frost among them. Obviously didn't work out, but it was the no brainer hire that 10 out of 10 programs would have made. Easy for hindsight to be 20/20 on it now, but he was the hot commodity as the next up and coming head coach and nobody can honestly say they could question that hire at the time it happened. He checked all the boxes and then some. In fact, I'm not sure that a lot of Frost's failures weren't due to meddling from the old TO regime. But that's a different topic.
Disagree, moving to the B1G was not a mistake and it was Barry Alvarez was the one that lobbied for Nebraska to get in. (I’ve have mentioned that before)

Blame TO all you want but the program wasn’t broke so why fix it after going 60-3. Frank is the last head coach to win conference championship and had top 10 teams.

Bo Pelini was a head coach here for 7 years with winning percentage of .713 why was that a bad hire.
Shawn Eichorst will always be the worst AD Nebraska ever had and it’s not even up for debate..
 
Oh, those are on the list as well. I didn't say Solich, Bo and moving to the B1G were the only mistakes. I said they were among them. The point was that 3 of the big mistakes, actually more if we're including Pederson (so, 4 out of the 6 big mistakes), were all on TO. Great head coach. Horrible AD. The best and worst thing that ever happened to Nebraska football.

Therefor, THEE biggest mistake was letting TO hang around the program too long and foolishly thinking that just because he was one of the greatest head football coaches of all time, that somehow qualified him to also be a good Athletic Director. Michael Jordan was the best basketball player of all time too, but that didn't make him a good executive for the Wizards.

Solich - TO
Pederson - TO (sort of)
Callahan
Bo - TO
B1G - TO
Riley

Side note - I actually don't consider Frost among them. Obviously didn't work out, but it was the no brainer hire that 10 out of 10 programs would have made. Easy for hindsight to be 20/20 on it now, but he was the hot commodity as the next up and coming head coach and nobody can honestly say they could question that hire at the time it happened. He checked all the boxes and then some. In fact, I'm not sure that a lot of Frost's failures weren't due to meddling from the old TO regime. But that's a different topic.
Frost wasn’t coming back to Nebraska without Tom’s intervention. Frost had his eyes set on Florida or warm climate jobs.
 
His doctor highly recommended he retire. He nearly died before that last bowl game. I know more about that situation than I can share.
Okay and then he decided to run for political office a short time later, because that's such a stress free position? You pull a lot of unverified crap out of the blue just to try to win an argument.
 
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Disagree, moving to the B1G was not a mistake

Our record disagrees. It's no coincidence that our spiraling down the toilet as a program started then. Other than more money, which has amounted to jack for the program in terms of winning, there's not a single thing that's been good about it.

and it was Barry Alvarez was the one that lobbied for Nebraska to get in. (I’ve have mentioned that before)

And? He didn't single-handedly come and take us. Just because he might have lobbied for it, that doesn't make him responsible for it. TO made it happen.

Blame TO all you want but the program wasn’t broke so why fix it after going 60-3. Frank is the last head coach to win conference championship and had top 10 teams.

I understand your argument here. Like Frost, the benefit of hindsight shows that it was a bad hire. But I can certainly understand why it might have seemed like the right decision at the time. That said, he was never qualified to run a blue blood program like ours so I understand that side of the argument too.

Bo Pelini was a head coach here for 7 years with winning percentage of .713 why was that a bad hire.

Bo's shortcomings have been very well documented so I'm not going to keep beating that dead horse. He wasn't qualified. Plus he was a huge ass. With a program the size of ours, there is more to it than wins and losses. Like it or not.

Shawn Eichorst will always be the worst AD Nebraska ever had and it’s not even up for debate..

Not up for debate? He made one bad hire in Riley? Which was done largely to clean up the mess Pelini left. Pederson made a bad hire. TO made several bad hires.

When laying it all out like that, I guess we can agree that overall we've made some pretty shitty hires (ADs and coaches) over the years. Let's just hope we've got it right this time.
 
Okay and then he decided to run for political office a short time later, because that's such a stress free position? You pull a lot of unverified crap out of the blue just to try to win an argument.
Dude. It’s pretty widely known that Tom spent multiple days in the hospital before the bowl game. I have lots of contacts in the Lincoln medical community. That’s all I will say.

Tom didn’t have to sleep on a sofa in his office and go on 4-5 hours of sleep a night for months as a Congressman like he did as our coach. For heaven’s sake they wheel some Senators and Reps in to the chambers in wheelchairs for votes. Their staff does most of the work.
 
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Our record disagrees. It's no coincidence that our spiraling down the toilet as a program started then. Other than more money, which has amounted to jack for the program in terms of winning, there's not a single thing that's been good about it.



And? He didn't single-handedly come and take us. Just because he might have lobbied for it, that doesn't make him responsible for it. TO made it happen.



I understand your argument here. Like Frost, the benefit of hindsight shows that it was a bad hire. But I can certainly understand why it might have seemed like the right decision at the time. That said, he was never qualified to run a blue blood program like ours so I understand that side of the argument too.



Bo's shortcomings have been very well documented so I'm not going to keep beating that dead horse. He wasn't qualified. Plus he was a huge ass. With a program the size of ours, there is more to it than wins and losses. Like it or not.



Not up for debate? He made one bad hire in Riley? Which was done largely to clean up the mess Pelini left. Pederson made a bad hire. TO made several bad hires.

When laying it all out like that, I guess we can agree that overall we've made some pretty shitty hires (ADs and coaches) over the years. Let's just hope we've got it right this time.
Solich has the 5th highest winning percentage in Nebraska football history.
Solich wasn’t a bad hire. Could he have hired someone better than Pelini?
Possibly.

Well of course both TO and Perlman helped Nebraska entering the B1G, but why was that a bad decision?

The bad hires came after TO hires.
Will agree to disagree, saying Osborne made bad coaching hires isn’t true.
 
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SDSU QB Mark Gronowski in the portal.

Possible landing spots, according to Scott Dochterman, the Iowa beat writer for The Athletic:

If Gronowski chooses to transfer, three schools immediately stand out as possible destinations. He could join (former SDSU coach Jimmy) Rogers at Washington State, which lost star quarterback John Mateer to Oklahoma. Gronowski could transfer to Northwestern, where former offensive coordinator Zach Lujan enters his second year at that position with Northwestern. A potential wild card is Iowa, which is located about three hours west of Gronowski’s Chicagoland hometown and needs a starting quarterback.
 
Solich has the 5th highest winning percentage in Nebraska football history.
Solich wasn’t a bad hire.

There was more to it than just wins and losses. That's definitely the most important, but with a program of our size, there are other factors. Like it or not, that's reality.

Could he have hired someone better than Pelini? Possibly.

Definitely.

Well of course both TO and Perlman helped Nebraska entering the B1G, but why was that a bad decision?

There hasn't been one single good thing that's come from us moving to the B1G other than more money, which hasn't amounted to anything on the field. And not a single person can point to one thing. We've sucked ever since, which isn't just a coincidence.

The bad hires came after TO hires. Will agree to disagree, saying Osborne made bad coaching hires isn’t true.

Really? If Solich and Pelini were such good hires, why did neither of them go on to do anything remotely close to being successful at a program anywhere close to the size of Nebraska? There's a reason they were both relegated to the minor leagues. They weren't qualified to play in the majors.
 
Solich has the 5th highest winning percentage in Nebraska football history.
Solich wasn’t a bad hire. Could he have hired someone better than Pelini?
Possibly.

Well of course both TO and Perlman helped Nebraska entering the B1G, but why was that a bad decision?

The bad hires came after TO hires.
Will agree to disagree, saying Osborne made bad coaching hires isn’t true.
Solich winning pct isn't the problem. When the job would have opened in 1997, Bill Byrne could have had his pick of coaches to take over the job. Osborne took it upon himself to get the BOR to hire Solich and took Byrne completely out of the process. Osborne was a believer in consistency, but unfortunately Solich didn't have the respect of the other assistant coaches that Osborne did. Osborne either ignored that or didn't see it, either is a huge error. Anything that happened after that hire is irrelevant in that those decisions won't ever be made. Perhaps Byrne screws up the hire in 1997 and he gets fired, but it more than likely wouldn't have been Pedey that gets the job, so different scenarios are in play and it doesn't play out the same regardless.
 
Tom didnt meddle enough. He stayed out when pedo hired callahan and wanted to step in but didnt. Wish he would have. BC ruined this program, but pedo is to blame. Dont believe any of that crap about BC needing a different DC he was aHORRIBLE head coach, period.
I agree with this. BC came in after NU won 82% of its games in the 70's, 84% in the 80's, 87% in the 90's. Solich struggled but still won 75% of his games. But Bill wanted to make a bunch of changes and brought in a hodge podge staff. Bill only took the job becaue he assumed he would win because Nebraska always won. Then he would bolt back to the NFL. Instead Callahan went 27-22 and 15-17 in the Big 12. Nebraska football was now going down a different path and hasn't been the same since.
 
I agree with this. BC came in after NU won 82% of its games in the 70's, 84% in the 80's, 87% in the 90's. Solich struggled but still won 75% of his games. But Bill wanted to make a bunch of changes and brought in a hodge podge staff. Bill only took the job becaue he assumed he would win because Nebraska always won. Then he would bolt back to the NFL. Instead Callahan went 27-22 and 15-17 in the Big 12. Nebraska football was now going down a different path and hasn't been the same since.
He was an awful head coach. Im tired of the revisionist history.
Many fans still love BC and overestimate his job as head coach and in the same breath bash solich and underestimate his record as HC.
Ive said it bedore and Ill say it again, many husker fans prefer potential over results. People were in love with the “ooo new fangled west coast offense….ooo ahhhh we’re so modern!” That they didnt care about actually winning games. BCs first season was inexusible and he just threw the players under the bus, shrugged his shoulders and admitted he didnt care about losing. What did many husker fans do? Nod their heads like his bitch and blame solich.

People also try to say “new d coordinator” but BCs scheme, practice habits, and overall philosphy did not conduct to good defense. He was lincoln riley before lincoln riley but not a play caller. He was trying to run an nfl program without developed nfl players. His players routinely quit in games because they didnt believe in him or his system. Of all the bad coaches we’ve had, only he had players routinely quit and stop giving effort. Bo had some of that too toward the end.

He could recruit and thats why people loved him, again potential over results. But that was wearing off quick that last year.
Horrible coach, stain on the program. Pedo is to blame.
 
I don't know if it was thee critical mistake, but I can definitely understand the argument that it was one of them. Others include hiring Pelini and moving to the B1G. All three were on TO's watch.
Osborne announced his replacement when our AD was out of town. That is a fact. Bill Byrne might have went ahead and hired Frank, but only with the stipulation that a couple assistants must follow Osborne into retirement. We'll never know.

Don't forget that Osborne's insistence on keeping around Shawn Watson as OC led to several candidates withdrawing their names from consideration( or even possibly turning down the job) because those coaches wanted to bring in their own staff.
 
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He was an awful head coach. Im tired of the revisionist history.
Many fans still love BC and overestimate his job as head coach and in the same breath bash solich and underestimate his record as HC.
Ive said it bedore and Ill say it again, many husker fans prefer potential over results. People were in love with the “ooo new fangled west coast offense….ooo ahhhh we’re so modern!” That they didnt care about actually winning games. BCs first season was inexusible and he just threw the players under the bus, shrugged his shoulders and admitted he didnt care about losing. What did many husker fans do? Nod their heads like his bitch and blame solich.

People also try to say “new d coordinator” but BCs scheme, practice habits, and overall philosphy did not conduct to good defense. He was lincoln riley before lincoln riley but not a play caller. He was trying to run an nfl program without developed nfl players. His players routinely quit in games because they didnt believe in him or his system. Of all the bad coaches we’ve had, only he had players routinely quit and stop giving effort. Bo had some of that too toward the end.

He could recruit and thats why people loved him, again potential over results. But that was wearing off quick that last year.
Horrible coach, stain on the program. Pedo is to blame.
I will admit that I wanted Callahan to succeed at Nebraska. I don't disagree with much of what you wrote here. My point is and will always be that everyone wants to erroneously blame Pedey for the downfall of Nebraska. I contend that if the AD and not the outgoing coach named the replacement in 1997, Pedey never gets hired at Nebraska.
 
I think this could be true, but I’m worried about the interior defensive line next year. Could be a liability if we can’t address it with the portal. Also have some things to get sorted out in the secondary. McCollough is a HUGE get and will help, but we need another CB with some size. Maybe another safety too.
The CB with size is Donovan Jones. I doubt there is anyone in the portal who can match him physically and athletically. And if there is then I would want to look real closely at why they are even in the portal to begin with.
 
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He was an awful head coach. Im tired of the revisionist history.
Many fans still love BC and overestimate his job as head coach and in the same breath bash solich and underestimate his record as HC.
Ive said it bedore and Ill say it again, many husker fans prefer potential over results. People were in love with the “ooo new fangled west coast offense….ooo ahhhh we’re so modern!” That they didnt care about actually winning games. BCs first season was inexusible and he just threw the players under the bus, shrugged his shoulders and admitted he didnt care about losing. What did many husker fans do? Nod their heads like his bitch and blame solich.

People also try to say “new d coordinator” but BCs scheme, practice habits, and overall philosphy did not conduct to good defense. He was lincoln riley before lincoln riley but not a play caller. He was trying to run an nfl program without developed nfl players. His players routinely quit in games because they didnt believe in him or his system. Of all the bad coaches we’ve had, only he had players routinely quit and stop giving effort. Bo had some of that too toward the end.

He could recruit and thats why people loved him, again potential over results. But that was wearing off quick that last year.
Horrible coach, stain on the program. Pedo is to blame.
The reactionary dipshittery and piss poor leadership of Nebraska administration (No, TO is not included) is responsible for most of the mess we've seen the past two decades. We just made braindead transitions with some of our coaching hires. Going from option offense to WCO Bill Callahan required a multiple year transition. Going from mean "**** the fans" Pelini to ice cream with sprinkles Mike Riley as our only option. Keeping Frost for 5 years because he's OOU, even though he's a narcissistic, lazy **** who only thinks of himself. And that was very obvious within his first 2 years here.
 
T.O. went over Byrne to the Chancellor(who ended up being a lame duck) to get Frank elevated and retain his whole staff. It was a loyal and honorable move but probably created long term challenges for the program.
The move was not honorable, not in the least. Hiring the next football coach was the responsibility of the AD, period. To arrange a press conference while the athletic director was on vacation and announce Solich was going to be the next coach is a classic example of dishonor.
 
SDSU QB Mark Gronowski in the portal.

Possible landing spots, according to Scott Dochterman, the Iowa beat writer for The Athletic:

If Gronowski chooses to transfer, three schools immediately stand out as possible destinations. He could join (former SDSU coach Jimmy) Rogers at Washington State, which lost star quarterback John Mateer to Oklahoma. Gronowski could transfer to Northwestern, where former offensive coordinator Zach Lujan enters his second year at that position with Northwestern. A potential wild card is Iowa, which is located about three hours west of Gronowski’s Chicagoland hometown and needs a starting quarterback.
He would be foolish to pick Iowa over a Northwestern post graduate degree.
 
The move was not honorable, not in the least. Hiring the next football coach was the responsibility of the AD, period. To arrange a press conference while the athletic director was on vacation and announce Solich was going to be the next coach is a classic example of dishonor.
It was a power grabbing move. Not sure I would characterize it as dishonorable. Can you imagine what a food fight it would have been to have Byrne bring in somebody from outside? Not saying I agree with what Tom did but….
 
It was a power grabbing move. Not sure I would characterize it as dishonorable. Can you imagine what a food fight it would have been to have Byrne bring in somebody from outside? Not saying I agree with what Tom did but….
How many people actually wanted frank as head coach? I venture to say not to many fans
 
It was a power grabbing move. Not sure I would characterize it as dishonorable. Can you imagine what a food fight it would have been to have Byrne bring in somebody from outside? Not saying I agree with what Tom did but….
If Byrne bought in Mack Brown (HC North Carolina) or Bob Stoops (assistant HC at Florida) and one of them had success, I expect people would eventually be OK with the hire.
 
The move was not honorable, not in the least. Hiring the next football coach was the responsibility of the AD, period. To arrange a press conference while the athletic director was on vacation and announce Solich was going to be the next coach is a classic example of dishonor.
It was honorable and blindly loyal for him. Not necessarily to the rest of us.
 
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Some new names will pop up but are we currently on anyone besides these two? I think we passed on Maddox from UAB.

OT: Fa'alili Fa'amoe (Wash St)
DE: Chris Murray (Sam Houston)
 
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He was an awful head coach. Im tired of the revisionist history.
Many fans still love BC and overestimate his job as head coach and in the same breath bash solich and underestimate his record as HC.
Ive said it bedore and Ill say it again, many husker fans prefer potential over results. People were in love with the “ooo new fangled west coast offense….ooo ahhhh we’re so modern!” That they didnt care about actually winning games. BCs first season was inexusible and he just threw the players under the bus, shrugged his shoulders and admitted he didnt care about losing. What did many husker fans do? Nod their heads like his bitch and blame solich.

People also try to say “new d coordinator” but BCs scheme, practice habits, and overall philosphy did not conduct to good defense. He was lincoln riley before lincoln riley but not a play caller. He was trying to run an nfl program without developed nfl players. His players routinely quit in games because they didnt believe in him or his system. Of all the bad coaches we’ve had, only he had players routinely quit and stop giving effort. Bo had some of that too toward the end.

He could recruit and thats why people loved him, again potential over results. But that was wearing off quick that last year.
Horrible coach, stain on the program. Pedo is to blame.
His recruiting is over rated. He had the benefit of recruiting kids who had watched us win and/or play for national titles. We were still thought of as a destination program when he took over. That perception had changed by the time he left.
 
His recruiting is over rated. He had the benefit of recruiting kids who had watched us win and/or play for national titles. We were still thought of as a destination program when he took over. That perception had changed by the time he left.
Wasn’t his last recruiting class top 10 until it became apparent he was going to get fired? I feel like he was putting together a solid class for awhile before it all fell apart… but I could be misremembering.
 
Wasn’t his last recruiting class top 10 until it became apparent he was going to get fired? I feel like he was putting together a solid class for awhile before it all fell apart… but I could be misremembering.
Yeah, it had Gabbert or Freeman. Can't remember which. My point is Callahan inherited an NFL factory. Not hard to recruit to a place that was putting a bunch of guys in the NFL. Look at the 2003 roster. Bullocks, Bullocks, Fabian, Demorio, Ruud... He came in less than 3 years after a title game appearance and a Heisman winner.
 
Yeah, it had Gabbert or Freeman. Can't remember which. My point is Callahan inherited an NFL factory. Not hard to recruit to a place that was putting a bunch of guys in the NFL. Look at the 2003 roster. Bullocks, Bullocks, Fabian, Demorio, Ruud... He came in less than 3 years after a title game appearance and a Heisman winner.
Agreed, but he was definitely getting higher quality recruits than Solich was bringing in… he just was better at capitalizing on the brand at that time.
 
SDSU QB Mark Gronowski in the portal.

Possible landing spots, according to Scott Dochterman, the Iowa beat writer for The Athletic:

If Gronowski chooses to transfer, three schools immediately stand out as possible destinations. He could join (former SDSU coach Jimmy) Rogers at Washington State, which lost star quarterback John Mateer to Oklahoma. Gronowski could transfer to Northwestern, where former offensive coordinator Zach Lujan enters his second year at that position with Northwestern. A potential wild card is Iowa, which is located about three hours west of Gronowski’s Chicagoland hometown and needs a starting quarterback.
Gronowski is also considering declaring for the draft.

"“I’m trying to weigh all my options to do what’s best for me and my career,' Gronowski said, via ESPN. 'I’m confident in what I can do in the NFL. If there are opportunities that help my family, I’ll change my mind. It’s doing what’s best for me and my long-term interest overall.'”

Gronowski
 
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