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WOW Talk about Delusional K State fan, K State might win a Big 12 once Texas and OU leave to Pac12 and SEC, or BIG, and are replaced by SMU and Central Florida, they also might add Cincy and S. Florida.. Then K will be making around $50 less per year than Nebraksa in tv money.
Good first post. This could get interesting.
Maybe the Buffaloes would. But no way Missouri or TA&M would.Once we boot out Mad Cow then OU stays because NU comes back
because
Mad Cow was the reason NU left in the first place.
New (B12) becomes a (much) more stable conference.
Then
maybe Buffaloes, Tigers & Aggies will follow suit.
Oh my. Somebody's smoking something on their day off.Once we boot out Mad Cow then OU stays because NU comes back
because
Mad Cow was the reason NU left in the first place.
New (B12) becomes a (much) more stable conference.
Then
maybe Buffaloes, Tigers & Aggies will follow suit.
Our biggest problem with Texas is we invented new ways to choke against them. If we were 8-1 against them instead of 1-8, I suspect nobody would care about them.
What's amazing is I can think of at least 4 games we should have / could have won (96, 06, Terrence Nunn fumble, and big 12 championship). They all hurt, but 96 was the worst.+1 .. they owned us and it started when they punked us in 96 and cost us a shot at 3 straight NCs ... they were 7-4 and unranked I believe
that 4th down conversion from their own 28 leading 30-27 w 2 minutes left still haunts
AGree--I was in St Louis in 96 ---felt very confident--and I think our coaches were overconfident. Took some luck on the other team's part to say the least.What's amazing is I can think of at least 4 games we should have / could have won (96, 06, Terrence Nunn fumble, and big 12 championship). They all hurt, but 96 was the worst.
I don't feel not having a conference championship game hurt the big 12 as much as how poorly their Baylor schedules. They have a terrible OOC schedule. Having a CCG would have boosted their strength of schedule, but so would actually scheduling quality teams.My guess is, conference realignment is not over yet, but the big 12 is in big trouble no doubt.
Also, once people saw how the 4 playoff teams were chosen, and the big 12 got left out, it sent a pretty strong message about the need for a conference championship game, and sounds like they are having trouble finding teams to make that happen. What University is going to join that conference when it is so unstable? I think OU, UT, & maybe a few other teams get pulled into other conferences and the big 12 becomes something different, lower tier, for the schools left in it.
You could be right, and it is an interesting discussion. I do recall leading up to the selection, there was quite a bit of speculation about the B1G being left out due to the same reasons of SOS, and I also remember many people thinking that the SEC was going to have at least 2 teams in the playoffs. If I recall correctly, late season performances also played a major part, but I also believe they penalized the Big 12 for not having that extra game. People will look to that first year for clues going forward, and regardless of how the decision making was reached, the fact remains that the 4 teams chosen came from the 4 major conferences that also had a conference championship game. The fact that OSU won it all, to me anyway, reinforces the idea that the top teams from each of the major conferences should get a shot. How that turns out this year, who knows. The Big 12 has to be concerned, and rightfully so.I don't feel not having a conference championship game hurt the big 12 as much as how poorly their Baylor schedules. They have a terrible OOC schedule. Having a CCG would have boosted their strength of schedule, but so would actually scheduling quality teams.
AGree--I was in St Louis in 96 ---felt very confident--and I think our coaches were overconfident. Took some luck on the other team's part to say the least.
IIRC.....it wasn't so much that they didn't have a CCG but also the fact that the big 12 named Baylor and TCU as "co-champions" rather than using their own tie breaker to determine a "true champion" in hopes of getting 2 teams in better bowls. However in reality it cost them big time.The selection committee stated publicly before the beginning of the season last year that CCGs would play a significant role in the playoff selection process. Not having a CCG absolutely hurt the Big 12 and it will continue to do so. IMO the only way the Big 12 will ever get a team in the playoff is if someone goes undefeated. And you get one or two other teams from the other 4 conferences with a single loss. I could see the selection committee putting a 1 loss Texas or a 1 loss OU in the playoff over a 1 loss team from another conference regardless of a CCG. But any Big 12 team not named Texas or Oklahoma with 1 loss will have an uphill battle to make the playoff. Just my opinion.
IIRC.....it wasn't so much that they didn't have a CCG but also the fact that the big 12 named Baylor and TCU as "co-champions" rather than using their own tie breaker to determine a "true champion" in hopes of getting 2 teams in better bowls. However in reality it cost them big time.
So much for their motto......one true champion.